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Much the same to report here. I tried craigslist once on a Friday night before heading out with some playmates to see if I could get a few more females to join us for an orgy. Only got responses from couples, and even they flaked out when it came to the logistics (though one couple that sent naked pics still wants to meet up--we'll see). I think people use CE more for online entertainment than for actually meeting in the flesh. And, incidentally, your point about the male-female demographics applies to personals sites as well. I had my fun with all that but I'm back to finding sex the old fashioned way.

i read CL religiously. Missed connections are my favourite but the Casual encounters are amazing. I replied to the CE once, but it didnt go anywhere.. but i have written one (myself a female) and did get tons of responses. but i got freaked out and never did it again.. craigs list chicago rules.

heh, as usual the gays are way ahead of you. i've used gaydar for a few years now for those times when the urge hits. here in sydney there's always at least a couple hundred guys online wanting it, and getting it too. it's great being able to list what turns you on and getting someone to do it to/with you - often within the hour. sometimes a different someone several nights in a row. but take it from (slutty) me - if you do it too much you'll start to miss the 'getting to know you (with your clothes on)' part. i do, a lot. i guess what i'm saying is, the casual contact website is a great idea and all power to it, but the old adage holds true of the online contact fuck: the anticipation and the fantasy is way more powerful than the reality, which for me is that i still have no pulling skills in a bar setting - and i'm still on my own when i wake up in the mornings.

and I thought it was just me.

I KNEW it, I knew it....great reading but all false promises..I wondered who hooked up, I bet your experience is typical...

I spent this past summer, restless and frustrated by a rather long "dry spell" due to feeling damaged by my last relationship, feeding my insomnia and and obsessive tendancies by weeding through the sleaze on CE. I even posted a few ads of my own seeking men, stating various desires (oral pleasure, spanking and phone sex) and got a litany of replies. The oral post was particularly overwhelming. This is, of course, because I'm a woman which makes me a prime target. Oh, just remembered, I also posted twice seeking women and got *nothing*. I've also looked for women seeking women on CE and found only a smattering of ads, none of which worked turned out anything to my satisfaction. Of the, literally, hundreds of responses that I got from men only a relative few were worth following up on and many of them were downright disgusting by my standards (or perhaps by most people's). However, this has also resulted in some great fun with several "no strings attached" adventurous types that were to my liking and I don't regret a minute of it. It's been good therapy for me after the depression that followed the relationship I mentioned above and began a new chapter in my life that will inevitably end at some point and begin a new one that I'm hoping might include a substantial relationship. But for now I'm just having a jolly good time. Bars *are* for drinking and since I don't drink any more they're not even useful for that in my case. One more point. I asked this guy who I'm currently encountering with why he responded to my spanking ad since there hasn't been a whole lot of spanking involved in our affair and he told me that it was more because he liked the way it was written. He usually only surfs CE for sheer entertainment purposes but something that has even a modicum of imagination to it is rare. A couple of others have made similar comments to me. I'm no literary genius but there are some who still appreciate signs of intelligent life in the land of casual sex. Quality counts sometimes even seediest of places.

Nice going Grant - while you're at it, I think you should break down the mathematical probability that anyone using Hooksexup to try and meet somebody will actually do it, the whole macro view of sperm v egg attached... Know what else? Why don't you figure out a man's fair chance of getting casual poon if he A) Doesn't try to get it online, plus B) Doesn't go to bars, since bars are for drinking, lol... No, I've got it, do a documentary and follow a group of average dudes around until they've all offed themselves. That'd be super.

My friend G--- and I have both had success on Casual Encounters. We live in San Francisco (the origin of Craigslist) and in Febuary of 2001, G responded to an ad on Casual Encounters. Something to the effect of "girl not getting it enough from her boyfriend.. looking for casual fuck." G sent a pic, got a response, and a date was arranged. The girl was a bit flaky, rescheduling the date and stuff, saying she didn't want to get caught. In the meantime, I was feeling rather competitive and responded to an ad on in casual encounters on Feb. 13th, about a girl looking for a Valentine's Day date. I met the girl on the holiday after work, and although I wasn't super-enthusiastic about how hot she was, I was not going to give-up (I wish I always had this attitude). I brought her home. We fucked in my unmade bed and then the shower. It was OK and then weird afterwards. She wanted to stay and I wanted her to go. She left, I walked her to the MUNI stop. A couple days later G finally meets this girl, he has sex with her, and their relationship quickly wanes. All in all I would say we both had a good experience. BTW, I've yet to get laid off friendster. I had one date, which went fairly well, but I've all but given up in exasperation. You would think that responding in earnest to girls who have good taste in literature and film would work, but I have had enough no-responses to give up in frustration.

Grant, you are TERRIFIC!

Yikes, for at least 30 years sex ads and comeons have always been swamped with lonely, usually unattractive men looking for young women. Hell, any half way attractive woman can get picked up in almost any bar or honky tonk in the country. Dont men realize that many phone sex operators are men posing as hot young babes? Or grossly overweight women who do NOT resemble the come on photos in the sex papers? Sad, sad, sad.

Back in the mid 70s I met a buffed young guy around my age who like me, was curious about gay sex. I met him at a beach resort and although we were both straight, we ended up in his room for some hot man on man fun. Seeing our naked selves in the mirror, both of us tanned all over, was a real turn on. It was the first and only gay sex for me, but seeing our hard ons and teasing and licking his body and cock was a rush. I learned how to have anal sex with a girl friend with plenty of lube and patience, and I was astounded at the number of women who are curious about this besides lesbian sex with boyfriends as spectators. God, the sex parties that were out there after a day at a nude beach, back in the mid 70s! Some of the young babes could hardly wait to get to a party and show off their tanned buns and shaved pussies, besides perky nipples to be tweaked and licked. Ah, the memories.

Great tale. It made me try out Craig's List. And I met a great guy in town for business just looking for someone to hang out with. Ended up having a great few days together. I even got very sick and he stayed and took care of me. I think I at the least found a friend in Philly. (I am in Dallas.) Thanx, Craig's List! (for the great oral sex I got!!!)

I saw Grant's varsity swimmer ad. I didn't respond, largely because my girlfriend would be upset but also because I have an average-sized cock.

You're such a fucking funny writer- and I really enjoyed it- but I felt like it was sort of a cop out. Like ending stories in middle school with "and then she woke up, because it was just a dream," because your paper is late. You've got a following now Grant, I think everyone wanted to see you actually meet someone- I suppose that doesn't work when you're under deadline. And I guess it's better that you aren't dead or infected with the clap now. Funny funny.

Sooooo.....I take it you and your girlfriend broke up. Oh well. So much for your experiment with strap-on anal sex.

the author asks the hard question and then forgets it. his friends are succeeding, why cant he? i still want to know. i also want to know how i can meet women like feedbacker j 9/25. do i have to leave portland boregon? i didnt meet them in the bay area either so its probably me not my location. altho the demographics are even worse here, on the casual encounters CL site, its only @1% purported women, and then you have to adjust for whores and men posing. the idea of answering one is almost laughable. even the relationship area has 3X as many men. and my ahem wonderfully creative ads have dredged up a difficult (tiny) collection of mostly significantly overweight women. some of whom cant be bothered to read that i am a tall, obesity-phobic gym rat and perhaps their being 5'2" and outweighing me is likely to make this problematic. before i left the bay area 3 years ago there was a popular rumor that there were at least three books being written about CL. anybody know if anythings gotten published? [email protected]

Very well written article. It was informative and eloquent. Please continue coming up with interesting topics such as this.

I am a woman who actually has had experiences on Craigslist casual encounters. I actually prefer to answer ads not place them, because as you said the response is overwhelming. I like it because I am 38, a BBW and not all that actractive, but I seem to have my pick on guys on CL. I have met my share of weirdos, though. I don't answer/place on the pay for sex services because of the cop thing aspect.

I am a woman who actually has had experiences on Craigslist casual encounters. I actually prefer to answer ads not place them, because as you said the response is overwhelming. I like it because I am 38, a BBW and not all that actractive, but I seem to have my pick on guys on CL. I have met my share of weirdos, though. I don't answer/place on the pay for sex services because of the cop thing aspect.

Grant,, That was a hilarious read! I've been lurking about on CL for probably two weeks now,, and I basically had the same results. Prior to CL,, I had no idea that there were so many BI-women out there. Moreover,, that they ALL had "register for free" websites. WHO KNEW?! Who knew that there was such an abundance of easy going, fun loving, carefree,, and open minded bi-chicks that don't wanna play head games out there?!?!? PLUS,, possess the knack of website creation! Astonishing. Thank you CL for bringing this to my attention.

ugh great review on criagslist. very true

I just spent the last 2 days doing the exact same thing. I googled this to see if others had the same results and voila, this was exactly what I was looking for. I emailed every single woman on the Casual Encounters and obtained the same results as this experiment did. This experiment is highly valid.

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I enjoyed reading this :) I'm a young woman and tried using CL's casual encounters.. no luck. I only got responses from horribly unattractive men, and I'm not very picky when it comes to these things..

I just posted an ad on CL seeking a girl on campus for NSA. So far I have only received one response and the person is real. However, she is requesting money for her services. I specifically stated that no men, prostitutes, or fake ads are to respond.

I'll admit that it's possible to have a hook up on CL (because I have) but you've gotta do things right: [Note: This is for guys looking for REAL women.] -Scout the ads. i.e. If the subjects says they're 21, but the post says 34 then skip it. -If the post is in a quote. It means that it's copy and pasted. i.e. "&?! -Make sure they're in your city i.e. w4m-suck in Boston The ad reads: "I love the South Loop. Go Bears!" Then you want to skip. -The ad is too good to be true: "Blow & go. Age/stats/location. I come in, you unzip pants, and I suck you down." Translates: A dude, a prostitute, or a fake. -Look at the pics and compare with what they post: Pic: Brunette with green eyes. Post: I'm a bombshell blonde, with DDs, and blue eyes. Then skip it. -Gives you a website: ____localsingles.org OR something like that. Ok, so how do you find someone real? -The real women aren’t so explicit. Here are two real examples... This is about as crude a women will get: post title: DTF? -NSA - w4m - 19 Are you DTF? NSA? I am a little thick, not FAT but thick (and in dire need of a release. ... its been like 2 weeks) Must be between 18- 25 yo Prefer 8 inches or larger (Long and thick is a bonus) Must be neat, clean, trimmed NO STDs. Be discreet You host Must not be too overweight (as in like 300+ #) A muscular build makes me super horny though. I last a long while, I need someone to satisfy me. If its just a one time deal or if its a continuing F*Buddy thing, its cool by me. Face shots get replied to quicker. I need this ASAP as I am extremley horny and need a good release!! Put DTF in the subject line when you reply so I know you are real!! Ok, this “DTF”-er is probably real. She’s specific with the whole penis size, but she doesn’t use the word “cock.” She’s wants a certain age range, near her own. She’s 19 (or says she is) and wants someone between 18-25. The big deal to note on this is that “face shots get replied quicker.” She doesn’t ask to see your penis, so don’t send her your penis. She’ll see it when she wants. Also, the final line about putting something in the title (here it is DTF), is a common practice to filter out spam. This is a more realistic post: Creamy Vanilla 4 Sweet Chocolate - w4m – 39 Wow, I never knew there were such haters. I posted an ad like this before and got some great results and met some Fine, Sexy, Smart, Black men. But lately, I'm hearing from angry white men and jealous black women. To all of you I say: SAVE IT for your therapist. Black and White is All Right and is here to stay. Ask Pres. Obama..... Now on to Business!! I would like to meet a Nice, Intelligent, Black gentlemen for a full evening. I am a mature, sexy, voluptuous white woman, who knows what she likes. A casual dinner, some drinks and music and then on to Dessert..mmmm. Age is of no concern as long as your legal. Please send a pic with response or you will be deleted and absolutely no "gmail" accounts will be accepted. Seems the haters are afraid to show their TRUE selves and use that avenue to vent their mental problems. I have plenty of pics to share once I see yours. I want to have a seductive , pleasant night of "Godiva" Exstacy. Waitin on you Baby....Hit me NOW.. This “Vanilla” post sounds like the real deal. She’s probably real for a lot of reasons. She’s posted before and gotten white dudes wanting her and black girls hating her. Also she doesn’t want G-mail messages, which many spammers use too easily. She seems like she wants more than a casual encounter, because she mentions dinner, music, etc. She has some misspellings, but they’re not atrocious. My own real experience: I posted all through this summer to the m4w section, but never included a phone number or face/body shots. Take a look any day on CL m4w casual encounters and it’s overwhelming how many dudes post. There’s always one-liners and cock shots. I don’t believe a woman would find a guy like that. However, many couples go through the m4w section. My handle was that I could ejaculate a lot. I got at least four or five real couples wanting to do video. Crazy stuff. I never took them up on it. There was one woman who wanted to “eat cum,” literally those were her words. She flaked at the last minute and seemed to only want to chat. So, where was my success? On a Monday afternoon, I responded to a “Black BBW for ASAP hookup-20” w4m ad. The women just aren’t going to be the blonde, blue eyed, double-D, babes all the time. The ad was about five lines long, pretty much reiterating the title and she wanted to host. Now, that’s pretty vague. But it just read real. I sent a photo of my face (NO cock shot) and said I was interested and available almost any time. [Note: Even if you’re not available all the time, say you are. It’s like a job interview.] I waited for a few hours and got a response. She sent an e-mail asking where I lived and also telling me I looked “cute.” She sent me a link to her myspace. Here’s some details. She said she was BBW, Black, and 20. The myspace photos showed her as a larger girl, who was black, and her profile said 20 years old, as well as there was a set for a 20 year old B-day party. All that checked out. I wrote back and said she looked good, that I was interested, that I was available. I told her I’d send my cell to her return e-mail. She sent an e-mail back, giving me when she was available. I was NEVER explicit in any of my responses to her. I always flirted and signed off with, “I can’t wait to come and play.” Not pushy, but interested. I noticed the ad was taken down by the end of the night. That’s a good sign, because something left up there can easily be a pic collector, a guy, or a fake sign up website. On Wed., I went over to her apartment. She had given me her specific address. We did not meet up in advance in public. I txted a friend of mine her address and said that I would txt him when I was safe and sound at home. I suggest you do the same if you get to this point. I parked close, but not so close to her building. I wore clothes I don’t normally wear. She greeted me at the door, on the first floor apartment. She was high from having hit a bowl. I followed her to her room. I asked if she was ready. I closed the door behind me. I made sure to look around and see if there was any place someone could be hiding. I’ll admit, I was a little sacred. But I planned to bolt out the window if anything happened. She was spread on the bed. I made out with her. We took off our shirts. I sucked her tits. Fucked. Went down on her. She gave me a bj. I came on her tits. We fucked two more times. I wore a condom every time. I suggest you do the same. [Note: I’ve heard sometimes people have “rules.”] She asked me a lot of questions. I lied to every single one of them. Do NOT tell a casual encounter who you are. Make stuff up. Have fun. You’re not you. Overall, it wasn’t dirty, it wasn’t awesome. It was so-so. I’m pretty sure she enjoyed it more than me. She wanted to have it be continuous friends with benefits (FWB). I said I never did it more than once with the same person (even though it was my first time doing it with a stranger). I left and txted my friend that I was safe and sound. So, folks, it can happen if you do it right. Hope this helps.

I have been hooked on craigslist for a while now and will agree that is very hard to find someone that is real and not trying to sell their cam-sites. I did have some success though. My wife posted an ad in ce looking for another woman to join us as my birthday present. A couple days later a very attractive college girl responded. We emailed back and forth for about two weeks and then she came to our house. To say the least, it was a very good birthday. Since then we have had virtually no success.

I have been working CE for a couple of years now in Austin, Texas. I have had 2 intimate CE's with women from the site and have a couple of friends that didn't get intimate. All answered my ads. One long term FWB CE actually came off of the "strictly platonic" section. All I said was that I was interested in just being friends but open to more if there is a connection. At the same time I have also had the same results as Grant. There are a lot of fake posters and a lot of fake repliers. Obviously, I don't have success all the time. Nothing good this weekend. But, like fishing, I get a good bite and even catch one now and then. I'm a male and competing with the posting in the m4w section is awful. Your ad will be buried on the 2nd page within 30 mins. And you have to have an original post that is not the routine "i wanna fuck" ads. I put a picture in my post, but not of me, usually a sunset or something. Having a pic, makes them curious to click and see what the pic is. You can have success on CE it just takes some creativity.

Thank you Grant for performing this valuable experiment. I performed a similar one this week in a smaller mid-Atlantic city, with much worse results: not a single reply from a real human being, not even a flake or pretend-woman. Every last one of the 40+ emails I got back (either contacting w4m or posting m4w) tried sending me to a "verification" site or an affiliate marketing scam. AFAICT, there are no females in this burg who use CE.

...nor any interesting weirdos, in a city reputedly known for such. But I did have a couple wild conversations with sexy Brazilian chatbots, who also linked me to credit card scams. :(