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Mary Elizabeth Winstead in Scott Pilgrim, reacting to Michael Cera's misogyny

Despite its generous marketing and critical acclaim, the Michael Cera-led Scott Pilgrim vs. The World performed poorer than expected at the box office. And according to Cinematical, this could be blamed on the movie's failure to cater to one broad segment of audiences: broads.

The blog reports that some members of the fairer sex, which take up 50% of the country, are "quivering with feminist rage" over Pilgrim's supposed misogyny. One Movieline critic is upset by the protagonist's inability to "progress beyond mooney-eyed infatuation" for Mary Elizabeth Winstead's Ramona, the story's heroine. The same reviewer chides the discourteous Pilgrim for his unchivalrous culinary skills, noting that he should "make something other than garlic bread when he invites her over for dinner." Another critic dismisses the Edgar Wright-directed film as "Twilight for boys" and "off-putting for what it says about young men's attitudes toward young women."

What do you think? Is Pilgrim giving you the feminist quivers? Or are women simply tired of the perennially shy, lovelorn, socially inept characters that made Cera famous? And what's wrong with garlic bread? (Spoiler: Nothing. Nothing is wrong with garlic bread.)

Commentarium (32 Comments)

Aug 18 10 - 10:38am
Moops

Boo-farking-hoo. It's not like the titular character beats his girlfriend. A movie does not need to appeal to any demographic — if you don't like it, don't watch it. Maybe I should be up in arms because the hero is totally fiscally irresponsible — he's off glavanting around with his girlfriend instead of minding the Banana Shack (there is always money in the banana shack).

Aug 18 10 - 10:54am
g.o.b.

wrong storyline, moops, but point made.

Aug 18 10 - 11:00am
ML

I'm so sick of Micheal Cera.

Aug 18 10 - 11:29am
LM

I'm so sick of ML.

Aug 18 10 - 12:13pm
p

Did not see the movie yet. I read the comic books last year though (not volume 6 yet). Very good. I did not see anything misogynistic in the story. But of course, I'm a man.

That being said, I know a couple women that read the books too. They all loved it. I think the movie might be very badly marketed because that should appeal to women too.

So...yeah...I do not get the misogynistic accusations.

Aug 18 10 - 12:23pm
jack

Doesn't misogynist mean Hatred of women or girls? It sounds to me like the creators of the movie just ignored women/girls. And how can a character be shy, lovelorn and socially inept as well as a misogynist? I hear the soundtrack is good. Plumtree, the band that wrote and perform the song from which the movie took its title character, are from my hometown...although I always sort of thought they sucked...Guess that makes me a misogynist.

Aug 18 10 - 12:45pm
balzac

At least he made dinner. Wouldn't misogyny consist of telling her to make if herself? Or calling her a "bad woman" if she refused?

Aug 18 10 - 1:23pm
Jacquie

Did they consider asking any, like, actual feminists for comment? Like Amanda Marcotte of Pandagon, who put up a positive review of the very same movie?

Aug 18 10 - 1:33pm
taalibba

Okay, I haven't seen it yet. But putting a woman on a pedastal and feeding her bread is not misogyny. At worst, it's chauvinistic.

Aug 18 10 - 1:50pm
KS

'putting a woman on a pedastal and feeding her bread is not misogyny' Classic!

Aug 18 10 - 4:54pm
moops

"Okay, I haven't seen it yet. But putting a woman on a pedastal and feeding her bread is not misogyny. At worst, it's chauvinistic. " — actually, it's performance art.

Aug 18 10 - 5:13pm
Ruth

I like bread.

Aug 18 10 - 5:14pm
hurp

Having actually seen the movie multiple times, I will say that this movie is far from misogynistic. So, so far.

First of all, Scott Pilgrim is poor. Not homeless poor, but "starving artist" poor, and they make a point out of this in both the book in the movie. Feeding her bread (and eating it himself, I might add) is nitpicking, especially since it's probably all he could make. It's straight from the books too, so calling the director misogynistic is fucking stupid. And complaining that he should make something other than bread sounds a lot like projection, rather than a complaint. Don't call a movie entirely sexist because if it were you, you wouldn't stand for just garlic bread.

And he does progress beyond mooney-eyed infatuation. Clearly, someone didn't watch the end of the film. I mean, the entire end fight sequence is about him fighting for /himself and not Flowers/.

As for the "Twilight for boys" comment, that's more sexist than anything else here. This movie isn't sexual eye candy like Twilight is, so claiming that it's a film aimed to please a male audience (and only a male audience) is bullshit.

Aug 18 10 - 5:15pm
hurp

Uh, yikes. The spacing in that comment is terrible. I guess the commenting system doesn't recognize breaks?

(and bread is delicious, don't hate)

Aug 18 10 - 5:25pm
Michael

Simpler answer: the marketing for this movie blows. No amount of money spent can substitute for the fact that nobody has told audiences why they should see the movie.

Aug 18 10 - 6:05pm
Kserv

Isn't it also kind of odd that the movie is chided for being anti-feminist and unchivalrous at the same time?

Aug 18 10 - 10:32pm
Gs

I liked the movie and found nothing misogynist about it. In fact, it had a lot of strong female characters. What exactly is misogynist about it? Garlic bread? Really?

Aug 18 10 - 11:31pm
trefoil

Oh come ON. If you're going to give us this as an article, link to feminists who disapprove.

Aug 19 10 - 12:59am
robotbears

I wasn't offended. Michael Cera could never come off as misogynistic. It's a really good movie.

Aug 19 10 - 1:04am
N

Maybe the dinner part is just realistic. Unfortunately, I've dated boys who don't cook anything. I'd like to find a boyfriend who is an egalitarian, feminist, talented, wonderful guy, as much as the next feminist. But not all guys are like that. Lots of girls have fuys that they like (or love) for many reasons, but aren't as denerous/talented cooks as they would like. Shouldn't movies / art portrary life as it is? Characters in a movie should be realistic, with flaws and all.

Aug 19 10 - 11:48am
Katie

I'm a girl, and I loved it. As did my two friends who saw it with me, also girls. We thought it was super cute, plus, who doesn't love fun, comic-ey fight scenes!?

Sep 04 10 - 4:16pm
scg

I am female. I loved it. This is absolutely ridiculous.

Dec 13 10 - 7:46am
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Jan 28 11 - 1:51pm
bread makes u fat?!

I'm a feminist and loved this film! The cinematography was a blast, it's such a FUN COOL movie to watch. Really surprised it didn't do better in the theaters.

Jul 06 11 - 3:01am
hkp

Misogyny is so ingrained into our culture that it has become invisible.
Some Reasons Why This Film is Misogynist:
1. the premise of fighting seven evil exes to 'win' (like in a video game) the girl implies that a woman is somehow the property of her lovers (predominantly men), is a prize to be gained through competition with other males, and not a self-determining person with her own agency. This premise is hardly anything new, despite the comic book/video game graphics: it harkens back to the old idea that women are objects of male ownership whose lives are defined by their relations with men.
2. All the women are jealous of each other--there is no female camaraderie except at the end between Knives and Ramona, and that is brief and mediated by their shared love of Scott.
3. The betrayal of lesbianism as an unfavorable oddity: Ramona defensively declares "it was just a phase!" of her same-sex relationship.
4. The women can be easily controlled by the men. Scott defeats the evil lesbian by touching the back of her knee (that women have no control over their erotic feelings is a popular male fantasy that pornography makes extensive use of), and Ramona is controlled by Gideon with a chip in the back of her neck.
5. The female characters are all perfectly happy to forgive the pain Scott has caused them in a matter of a few minutes, after a fight scene. Kim is won over by his two line mumbling apology, and Knives conveniently steps aside, despite (or because of?) her love for him and sends him running after the retreating Ramona. The womens' sides of the story are not given sufficient closure or emotional explanation because these characters have been, from the beginning, merely the female foils to Scott's heterosexual male (underdog) hero. They fall away as obstacles in order for the film to reach it's correct conclusion: the establishment of a heterosexual relationship, the fulfillment of male desire.
6. The women barely get to fight. And when they fight they have to fight each other. Having Ramona battle her lesbian ex rather than Scott seemed to me like an obvious enactment of male fantasy (girls fighting yeah!) and the chauvinistic notion that men aren't allowed to fight women (exemplified by Scott's line, I don't think I can hit a girl; they're soft). This implies that women and men are somehow on different levels of physical strength and agility solely based on gender. All the fighting done by women is against other women. Knives is knocked down when she fights a man, as is Ramona. Knives and Ramona spend more time on screen fighting each other than they do fighting Gideon at the end. Ramona does not even get the satisfaction of destroying her final evil ex, who had been controlling her and using her (an abusive relationship, though this emotional dimension of her character is barely explored). Instead, Scott destroys him, because he is the male hero rescuing a weakened female from the possession of another man.

This movie is also racist and homophobic in similarly innocuous but insidious ways.
The portrayal of Knives as an Asian American was also offensive: from the subtle 'oriental flute' music in the background while she was onscreen, to her overall characterization as "sweet and nice" but also "over-the-top and crazy". Not to mention all the casual racism surrounding her: from "kung pao chicken" to the skepticism and eroticization evident in Scott's friends' reactions to the news that he is dating a Chinese-American. Her race is not normalized, but frequently commented on and made into a joke, such as when Scott asks, "are you even allowed to date outside your race?" Knives is defined by her ethnicity in a deliberate and stereotypical way: the white characters are not defined by their ethnicity, because they are considered the 'default'.
The gay men portrayed were also defined by their queerness the way the straight characters were not defined by their straightness, because of course straight is the default, normal way of being, and gay is the other, deviant way of expressing sexuality. (Scott introduces his friend to knives with the words "he's gay" as a disclaimer). The gay best friend stereotype was kicked around a bit here, as was the old "haha that person is gay" joke. The gay character was constantly referring to the fact that he was gay--queerness was not normalized in the social relations depicted by the movie. When Scott walks in on his roomate and sees his partner naked, the implication is that Scott has been traumatized by his
exposure, however accidental, to other male genitals. The experience is repulsive to him because the people he sees naked at two men; he has somehow been implicated in the queerness by witnessing them together. The implication is that gay sexuality is visually abhorrent to straight men, and rightly so: this enforces an all too familiar hyper-masculine homophobia--literally, a male fear of being gay or being exposed to gay sexuality. Imagine how different the scene would have been if he had walked in on straight intercourse.
In short (which this is, though it could be much longer) it's not the garlic bread, but the underlying assumptions about masculine and feminine power, friendship, relationships, and sexuality, based on unimaginative stereotypes, which make this movie misogynist.

Aug 08 11 - 8:22am
adhoclobster

No, no, no.

In the sense that the overwhelming majority of humans are heterosexual, it is the default. Homosexuality and bisexuality are abnormal. There need be no moral judgement attached to this, but it is the biological fact. I think his roommate is ironically tackling his sexuality, sort of addressing it like an elephant in the room, getting it out in the open and out of the way right off the bat. He's being dry, sarcastic, funny.

Also, these characters are characters. If the movie is accurately depicted characters, then the movie is not misogynist, homophobic or racist. The characters are. Whether they are or not, and to what degree is up for debate.

Biological facts are not up for debate. Men are physically stronger than women. Again, whatever follows from this fact is completely up to us; we can make of it what we want, or ignore it, etc. But it is a fact. It's not disputable. Some women are stronger than some men, but the average man is physically more powerful and aggressive than the average woman.

As far as the characters being unimaginative stereotypes, that's a complaint against this film as a piece of creative writing. It may be true, but it wouldn't make the film misogynist, just a trite/amateur-ish/boring/second-rate/non-challenging story.

Aug 08 11 - 4:02pm
Doctress Julia

I want to reply to hkp: YES YES YES. I read the comic and was really disguted by the misogyny and heteronormative BS. Your comment WINS the thread. THANK YOU.

Aug 08 11 - 4:28pm
Flora

I guess you missed the part of the movie where it took place in CANADA. Knives was Asian Canadian. The only American character (they actually made quite a big deal out of it) was Ramona.

Aug 10 11 - 6:31am
Maitiu

HKP: That was awesome... the funniest part was is that there your post isn't far from what some actually think (I guess the difference between extremism and satire is pretty small). Hilarious parody of the way people try to invent racism/sexism/etc.

Aug 10 11 - 6:32am
Maitiu

Well, this is a movie in which a male character gains self-respect... which is about as anti-feminist as you can get.

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