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Why do men send women pictures of their penises? Dan investigates.

By Dan Savage

I'm a twenty-two-year-old FTM. I will become a legal male this summer. WOOT. Useless hole but still no pole. My friends — all straight — don't know I'm FTM because I don't feel it matters. I don't know any other FTMs, and I really don't care to. However, I like men. I have never had a boyfriend or been on a date. I go to gay clubs and flirt, get hit on, dance, and make out with other gay men. But when I am up front about being FTM, I never hear from a guy again. My question is, when do I tell a gay man I have been flirting with that I am not a bio male? I don't want to deceive them, but I at least want a chance for them to get to know me a little bit first.

— No Pole, No Go

The first thing Buck Angel — trans activist, public speaker, and porn star — wanted to say, NPNG, was congrats in advance on become a legal male. The second thing Buck wanted to say was that hole of yours isn't useless.

"If he isn't familiar with my work, maybe he should check it out," said Buck (www.buckangel.com). "I get tremendous pleasure from my hole and I am comfortable sharing that with the world in my movies. Whether a transman plans on getting a penis or not, there still has to be a time that he realizes that what's between his legs does not define who he is."

It seems to me that time — the time you realized that you're not defined by what's between your legs — had to have come before you began transitioning, NPNG, otherwise you wouldn't be transitioning at all. As for how the guys you're meeting in gay bars now, post-transition, feel about what is or isn't between your legs, Buck has some advice for you about that, too: "If he meets a guy and tells him about himself — which is the right thing to do — and he doesn't hear back, then that wasn't the right guy for him."

If you're not having any luck with messy face-to-face meetings/make-out sessions in gay bars, Buck suggests you consider online dating.

"If he's looking to hook up," said Buck, "here's a site where he can start: www.ftmlover.com. He'll see that there are tons — and I mean TONS — of men out there who are interested in guys like us!"

But before you start meeting those guys, NPNG, Buck thinks — and I agree — that you have to become more comfortable in your own skin. "Be proud of your body," said Buck. "When you feel confident that you are a man, no one can tell you otherwise."

Do you know what might help you feel more confident? Getting to know some other trans guys.

"There are many reasons that someone might isolate themselves from other trans and gay people," said Ezra Goetzen, a mental-health therapist and trans-community activist. "Some folks identify as male-to-male, seeing their transition as a medical procedure rather than a path to a transgender identity. Others, due to the fabulously flattering cultural/media images of trans people in general, internalize the shame, indifference, and disgust — and they don't want to be reminded of these feelings by hanging out with other trans people."

Whatever your particular reason for avoiding transmen, NPNG, you're doing yourself a disservice.

"Being isolated from other trans folks leaves little room to find support and role models for loving yourself," said Goetzen. "And it makes getting invaluable tips on how to get laid safely and carefully harder."

You know, invaluable tips like the ones Buck provided you with today. Want more tips like those, NPNG? Then get to know some of the guys out there who have successfully navigated the path you're stumbling along.

 

Getting married soon. We want to put a note in the invitation requesting donations to organizations fighting for marriage equality in lieu of gifts. Which organization is fighting the hardest/most effectively in your view?

— Gonna Get Married

Freedom to Marry (www.freedomtomarry.org), National Center for Lesbian Rights (www.nclrights.org), and GetEQUAL (www.getequal.org) — and thanks and congrats, GGM!

 

I'm wondering whether you have any thoughts on the male tendency when sharing "naughty" photos to go straight for a close-up shot of the penis. Representative Anthony Weiner's tweeting disaster has brought to mind a number of recent cases where high-profile men — such as Kanye West and Brett Favre — sent other women similar shots in an apparent attempt to seduce them. However, the response I've heard from women to such offerings can be summed up as "Ew, yuck!"

Do you have any insight on why some men think this sort of overture would work?

— Totally Confused Female

Some men think this sort of overture works, TCF, because sometimes it works.

Before we get into that, I want to say a few words about Anthony Weiner: nothing the gentleman from New York said last week made him sound like a man who hasn't taken a picture of his cock at some point and sent it to someone for some reason. Nevertheless, I'm confident that Weiner is going to beat this thing.

Watching Weinergate unfold is like watching the voters-getting-over-politicians-who've-smoked-pot story play out all over again, only this time at warp speed and with sexting standing in for THC. With pot, we went from exposure resulting in an instantaneous resignation in 1987 (Supreme Court nominee Douglas Ginsburg) to a tacit admission being a survivable mini-scandal in 1992 (Bill "Smoked, Didn't Inhale" Clinton) to a collective shrug in 2008 (Barack "I Got High" Obama). With dirty pol pics, we've gone from instant resignation in February 2011 (Representative Christopher "Craigslist Congressman" Lee) to a tacit admission looking like a survivable mini-scandal in June 2011 (Representative Anthony "Beat This Thing" Weiner). At this rate, we'll be shrugging off the dirty pics of a congressman-to-be-named-later sometime before Labor Day.

Getting back to your question, TCF: the cock-shot overture doesn't work on most women, I'll grant you, but the sort of guys who send cock shots aren't interested in most women. They're interested in the sort of women who this sort of overture works on. And the sort of men who think only with their photogenic dicks — and not all men are that sort — figure the quickest way to determine if a woman is that sort of woman is to send the cock shot.

Despite a unanimous "Ew, yuck!" from your friends, TCF, there are women out there who do respond positively. One of the women you talked to about cock shots may have thought, "Well, it depends on the guy," but told you, "Ew, yuck!" because it was clear from the "Ew, yuck!" look on your face that "Ew, yuck!" was what you wanted to hear.

Gentlemen: the existence of a handful of women who welcome cock shots does not give you license to send cock shots to all women. Cock shots are for women who have expressed a clear and unambiguous interest in receiving cock shots.

Speaking of Buck Angel: documentary filmmaker Dan Hunt (Cruel & Unusual, Dangerous Living, Bear Run) is working on a film about Buck Angel's life, work, and activism. Hunt has been following Buck for six years and now needs to raise $6,000 to hire an editor to help him shape the film. Please join me in helping Hunt to finish Mr. Angel by making a donation via Kickstarter.

Find the Savage Lovecast (my weekly podcast) every Tuesday at thestranger.com/savage.

Comments ( 27 )

Jun 08 11 at 3:11 am
reader

The link you posted for Hunt's Mr Angel doesn't work. Here's the actual link, for those who'd like to see Angel Buck's gender assumptions destruction be heard of:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/50875648/mr-angel

Jun 08 11 at 6:14 am
Blerg

If I were with a trans guy I would hope that his hole isn't off-limits. When I am intimate with someone I want to be intimate with their entire body. I understand that your pussy might represent part of you that you don't feel represents your gender, but in my admittedly limited and possibly ignorant views, I think it would be best if you can move beyond that and accept your body, pussy and all... just like Buck Angel does when he describes himself as a man with a pussy.

Jun 08 11 at 11:20 am
Pip

I have gladly received, and even requested penis pics. Yes, I'm a girl and SHOCK HORROR! I like to have sex.

Jun 08 11 at 12:03 pm
moi

Well, but it's not the same thing when you want to receive a wiener picture as opposed to someone who you repeatedly said no to, and requested for them to stop, and they keep sending you said lovely pictures. It's not the same, and trust me, it can ruin a perfectly good day. Hell, it wasn't even that impressive , and I was one more wiener picture away from calling the cops on that hypocritical asshole ( he's all catholic-ey and bible thumper)

Jun 08 11 at 1:13 pm
LB

No one here is surprised that a woman likes sex. Liking sex is mutually exclusive from wanting to receive photos of an dick with no context and no warning—I'd like a face, please, and a heads-up.

Jun 08 11 at 12:44 pm
fishstix

@Pip...want to swap pics?

Jun 08 11 at 1:26 pm
joyce

There are lots of reasons guys send pictures of their junk. Some of them probably are looking for women who genuinely like the pics, like Dan said. Some probably got requests for the pics. Some enjoy sexually harassing women.

Why a public figure would send a picture of his equipment to anyone, requested or otherwise, is a total mystery.

Jun 08 11 at 8:59 pm
Dee

For all of the reasons listed in your first paragraph there, Joyce. Public figure or not, they still like to fuck. And what's wrong with that?

Jun 09 11 at 6:22 pm
yikes

I don't think most people have a problem with the fact that a public political figure might "still like to fuck", as you so eloquently put it. I surmise (from my own opinion) that most people are surprised that Anthony Weiner accepted the risk involved with sending someone he didn't know explicit messages and photos that list his full name, or can be traced back to him. Unfortunately in our society, public figures need to remember the possible consequences of their private behavior and how those circumstances may hurt their public image. By lying about this controversy, Rep. Weiner has invited people to question what else he lies about. (The fact that public opinion on a politician's sexual habits may affect judgments on his job performance should also be questioned...but that's American culture for you).

While I think that what Rep. Weiner does in his personal life generally has nothing to do with his performance in politics, I think for most sensible people, this is not a controversy about sex, it's a controversy about lying.

Jun 08 11 at 1:56 pm
jynn

Thank you for making that clear, Dan. I've gotten a cock-shot in the past & was totally turned off by the audacity. If I want to see your dick, I can find it myself, thanks, no need to send me a mug-shot.

Jun 08 11 at 2:47 pm
src

I've received a few unsolicited cock shots (definitely EW GROSS to me!) and the most off-putting aspect is the sense that the sender gets off on seeing his own pic and displaying it. I get that some chicks might be interested, but when they clearly aren't interested, it's all about the cock-bearer's VANITY. Particularly if the cock-bearer is shirtless in his bathroom mirror.

Jun 08 11 at 3:48 pm
EdwardSF

As a gay man I live to receive cock shots. Pressing the delete button really isn't that difficult.

Jun 09 11 at 2:46 pm
Phee

Yes, but choosing to NOT press the send button is easier yet. At least wait for a request.

Jun 08 11 at 4:05 pm
jill

I just saw an article about an art exhibit featuring plaster cast images of women's vags--just all hung up in a row there on the gallery wall. Is this hot to men--I mean, crotch shot, yay!--or is it the gynecological equivalent of the unwanted cock shot?
Please advise.
jill
https://inbedwithmarriedwomen.blogspot.com

Jun 08 11 at 9:54 pm
A Note or Two

The Rep. Lee thing, according do a later story done by Gawker, probably happened because he knew that if he didn't, someone would dig up the fact he was also trawling for Trannies on craigslist, and it would become VERY public, as opposed to mostly ignored.

Jun 08 11 at 9:54 pm
A Note or Two

happened so fast***

Jun 09 11 at 11:13 am
profrobert

A minor historical correction: Douglas Ginsburg did not resign after it came out that he smoked pot while a Harvard law professor (which is a different point in life than Clinton's non-inhaling experience while a student). Ginsburg withdrew his nomination to the Supreme Court, but remained, and still remains, a judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

Jun 09 11 at 2:32 pm
so...

meh. I've sent a number of vagina shots to the men in my life. received a few penis shots as well. what one person finds sexy, another deems "gross"

Jun 09 11 at 2:33 pm
so...

also: i would be super insulted if a man said "eww gross" after looking at my girly bits. so i would never respond in the same to him

Jun 09 11 at 2:51 pm
Phee

I think the semantics difference here is, did you send the girly bits pics without warning? Like, no mention had been made of those kinds of pics, but you decided to anyway? So that it was a 'surprise!' when he opened the email? Or was he expecting the pics, perhaps after requesting them? That makes all the difference to me. I enjoy the occasional penis pic - but only if I've asked - and usually that only happens after I've seen it in person. There has to be a certain level of intimacy there for it to be pleasant. Just showing up in my email inbox one day, out of the blue? Uhhh, no thanks. That's the quickest way to earn a one-way trip to the Block Zone.

Jun 10 11 at 2:01 am
E

Hm, I'm not sure if many guys would object to receiving a surprise nude photo of their woman.

Jun 11 11 at 5:41 pm
wb

I have received naked pics twice, one with some buildup and one without. both were pretty hot. to be fair, in both cases, i'd made my interest in the lady in question rather clear.

Jun 10 11 at 11:50 am
SB

Does anyone know if the women requested those pics of Wiener, or were that just a lewd overture? I've sent pics and maybe a few videos, but it was always to a woman I was already intimate with. She sometimes did the same.

The worse part is that Weiner lied about it since now no one will believe him when he speaks. Better to come clean if someone accuses you, unless they are totally wrong.

Jun 10 11 at 1:14 pm
SimpleRuleForMen

Please don't show your genitals - or pics of said genitals- to a woman, unless she specifically asks you. Better sex guaranteed for EVERYONE.

Jul 22 11 at 5:46 am
Eloise

I went to tons of links boefre this, what was I thinking?

Jul 23 11 at 11:16 am
Amory

You really saved my skin with this infomration. Thanks!

Sep 07 11 at 6:21 am
Cialis Rezeptfrei

C4gP5t I do`t regret that spent a few of minutes for reading. Write more often, surely'll come to read something new...

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