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Dear Miss Information,

I've been dating this guy for about four months. Not that long, I know. For a while I was head-over-heels in love with him, but lately little things have started bothering me. Sometimes he acts like a know-it-all about things that I know just as much about. We play an online game together and if I log off because of some emergency (dog needs me, relative shows up unexpectedly, etc) or because I'm annoyed with the game, he takes it very personally and makes me feel bad. Recently he's taken to guilting me into talking to him online more often, when sometimes I just want to soak in the tub with a good romance novel.

Enter new-guy. He's a mutual friend of my boyfriend and myself. All the things I find annoying about my boyfriend are absent in this guy. I'm not saying this guy is flawless, but he makes me laugh and smile more than anyone else ever has. He does the opposite of the things that annoy me about my boyfriend: he gives me space, he doesn't take everything personally, and he doesn't have sexual fetishes that make me think he's kind of weird. I think about him more than I should. And the more time I spend with this guy, the less I like my boyfriend. It doesn't help that my boyfriend is just starting his treatment for depression. Though he's taking Ambien more than I feel he should AND Zoloft. I know this new guy has feelings for me, and I really like him too. What should I do? — Torn Between Two

Dear Torn Between Two,

Cheat on your boyfriend. Duh.

Just kidding. It sounds like you already know what you want to do — break up with your boyfriend and start going out with Mutual Friend. Usually when people write in with these issues, they give me at least some bare bones material for an opposing argument: he/she is super nice. The sex is good. We both share the same opinion about Cash Cab. You don't, other than to say you were once very much in love. Even that is kind of weak, considering you've only been dating him for four months. It's like saying you were ultra-committed to that job you had for two weeks.

The big complication here is the shared friendship. Is Mutual Friend best friends with your boyfriend or just regular friends? How long has everybody known each other each other? Are there other ways your lives are intertwined, such as sharing a living space or employer? You might have an idea about how this potential future will go down, but the best-laid plans can turn to utter shit once everything gets out in the open. You've got to hope for the best but prepare the worst and insulate yourself against anything harmful. Sometimes that means backing out of the whole damn thing in the first place.

You should also think about whether you dig Mutual Friend or just dig him by comparison. Suppose your boyfriend stopped being such a kinky killjoy, gave you some breathing room, and didn't down meds all the time. Would you think he's the better of the two or would you still gravitate towards the other guy? I know that's hard to tell. You've got one guy whose flaws you know, and another whose flaws have yet to be discovered. In many respects it's apples and oranges.

The most definite advice I can give you is to really commit. Pick a side, whether that's staying with your boyfriend and cutting off all but the most necessary social contact with Mutual Friend, or ending it with your boyfriend and going out with Mutual Friend. Rebound relationships can work, but a lot of times they don't. Mutual Friend's feelings could change once you're going steady or you could find that you're not as into him as you thought you were. If you find yourself single or with an entirely new person four months from now, I wouldn't be shocked.

Dear Miss Information,

I'm a college student: attractive, artsy, and a little wild. I can't not cheat or stay monogamous. I don't know what's wrong with me. I love people and I love meeting new ones. I date great guys with flowers in hand; the kind who hold doors and engage in intellectual discussions. This past week I realized I had a date every night. I don't sleep around, though. I can count how many people I've been with on one hand. I just want to stop this habit of flitting from one person to another. I can't juggle it anymore.

People ask me about my past relationships and I say that I'm into fifties-style dating. I'm not going to take off my clothes or even pretend that I'm going to. I'm upfront about it. I tell people, this is not exclusive, it might not work right now, don't call back, hint fuckity hint, etc. I have been reading your column for a few years now and I have not seen anything come up like this. I don't know what to do. I want to stop hurting people, but I know this habit is not easily broken.

Should I quit cold turkey, like cigarettes? Wear sweatpants in public? I suppose I could take more initiative and cut people off right away, but I never dislike anyone enough to do that. Is this wrong? Is this normal? I feel like I'm being slutty even though I'm not hopping from bed to bed. Please help. — Affection Deficit Disorder

Dear Affection Deficit Disorder,

You're not feeling slutty because you're hopping from guy to guy. You're feeling slutty because you're not being true to yourself.

There's nothing wrong with dating multiple people, but it's very demanding. You're constantly having to set and reinforce boundaries while maintaining that lighthearted "we're just two crazy kids" sentiment that goes along with casual dating. You've also ruled out getting physical, which you have every right to do, but keep in mind that can also blur the booty-call/potential boyfriend-or-girlfriend distinction. If the only time you ever see each other is when you're sloppy drunk and naked, it's much easier to avoid getting romantic.

At first glance, it seems like you're taking the right steps. You're telling dudes right away that you're not interested in something exclusive and you're going out on dates with a different boy each night, i.e. putting your dance card where your mouth is. However, looking back over your letter, I'm concerned. (Say that last sentence in an elegant Tim Gunn from Project Runway accent).

You say you can't not cheat or stay monogamous. I say, if you're being so "upfront" with everyone, why are you using words like "cheat"? Are you being selectively honest, or truthful only when it's easy? You say you never dislike anyone enough to cut them off. I say it's not a matter of like or dislike. Sometimes cutting people off is being the most caring.

There are two ways you can achieve your goal. You can either get better at dating, which would involve creating a better date/life balance (one night out, three nights in) and being firm about what you want OR you can take a thirty day break and see how you feel after a month of abstinence.

If it were me, I'd go with the latter, even though it sounds more depressing and difficult. I've taken dating hiatuses, and it gets much easier after the first week. It's like quitting smoking, minus the hacking cough. Tell your BFFs what you're doing and start a diary about it or make some sort of wacked-out art project.

Readers, have you ever taken a break from dating? How long did it last and what did you learn from it?

Comments ( 40 )

I tried to take a break from dating, but really... i just did alot of online shopping... im back to dating 3 nights a week

JM commented on Mar 01 10 at 2:27 am

I took an immenesely helpful six month break from dating everyone except for myself. Which sounds dorky but all it means is that i learned to enjoy my own company; walks to the beach with a book, solitary lunches listening to a mixtape I'd made for myself.. all that sort of weird "finding yourself" stuff with none of the weirdness. I bought a vibe, became better friends with a lot of people... it was really great and it's through this that I was ready to be a great partner to my current boyfriend, whom I love more than life itself and never would have found without this sort of thing!

Dee commented on Mar 01 10 at 3:00 am

RE: ADD... this person has some serious intimacy issues. Reading between the lines, she's a typical attractive young girl who craves attention and wants badly to connect with people, but is terrified of actually bonding with anyone. Thus the serial dating. It may or may not be coupled with a past sexual trauma, but the trauma is there. Normal people don't flit from person to person, night after night, with no sexual accomplishment or emotional attachment. This is neurotic behavior, and she needs therapy. It reminds me of the popular and overrated movie "500 Days of Summer" where the girl tells the guy "I don't want a relationship" and then has a relationship with him anyway, and then we're supposed to feel like she's not a heartless controlling bitch when she inevitably dumps him, because "she warned him." Summer needed a kick in the pants, and ADD needs therapy to discover and deal with her inability to connect with other human beings for more than 4 hours at a time. God, I need my own column.

PO commented on Mar 01 10 at 3:11 am

I've been on a break from dating since my last relationship broke up a year and a half ago, and it's been wonderful--lots of reading, hiking and seeing people who care a lot more about me than he ever did! I've got a toe back in the water now mainly because I'm worried about being too solitary, but I already sense I'm going to miss this stage of my life. I highly recommend the letter writer stop dating and try to spend some time alone thinking about what she really wants.

h commented on Mar 01 10 at 3:41 am

Yeah, "I don't want a relationship right now" is usually code for "I reserve the right to ditch you without blame when I get tired of you or meet someone better".

As for ADD, PO basically hit the nail on the head, though I'm less sympathetic. ADD doesn't need validation and logistical advice from Miss Info; she needs a therapist, right now. She calls it "fifties-style dating" and claims she's upfront, but I think it's really about getting attention without having to follow through, sexually or emotionally. There's something vaguely sadistic about her behavior. If you "love people", you don't treat them the way ADD is, i.e. getting their hopes up and then repeatedly dashing them.

S.F. commented on Mar 01 10 at 3:53 am

I date passively. I meet a Girl I Like every so often and then attempt to get to know them better. There's not much active going out of way to meet people, I consider myself lucky in that respect.

sigma83 commented on Mar 01 10 at 7:59 am

I've never really taken a break from a relationship by choice, but having just finished a two and a half year relationship with a truly exhausting and sad ending I think maybe it's time I did. I enjoy my own company and deep down I knnow its the pressure to be with someone that is the main reason I mostly am. I want to learn to feel valid and loved outside of a relationship, which will obviously make my chances of making the next one work much better. The second letter writer sounds very unhappy and trapped in an endless desire for attention. Flitting from one guy to the next ensure no one properly gets to know her, and thus reject her. It's classic and pointless and she needs to raise her self-esteem by other means: therapy/friends/hobby. I have just started writing a book and whether or not it goes anywhere it makes me feel challenged and worthwhile.

BB commented on Mar 01 10 at 9:37 am

The 2nd solution for ADD sounds like the premise for a Rom Com: Ms. Doe gets out of the dating pool for 30 days, only to discover that Mr. Right was right there all the time. There's a title for you: "Out of the dating pool".

WQ commented on Mar 01 10 at 9:51 am

When I broke up with my ex — or when he dumped me, rather — I didn't date anyone for a while. I decided a month ago (more than 6 months after) I was ready and started going on tons of dates. I have met someone I quite fancy now... and although I'm excited, I enjoyed the alone time. (Maybe I'm not ready?) But I am also more set in what I want in life and what my goals/aspirations are... which makes our new relationship a lot more solid!

ELH commented on Mar 01 10 at 10:59 am

BB... I know what you mean... and you need that break! You need to let the emotional exhaustion and resentment die down and come to terms with it... otherwise, it'll just pop up into the next relationship! And... no one wants that ;-)

ELH commented on Mar 01 10 at 11:00 am

I can identify with this woman a lot, and I don't think there's anything wrong with dating around. Time away from dating is great; I took a two month haitus a few years ago, and they were wonderful months. Time with friends, books, work, instead of dates, can and should be dreamy.

This woman's in college, having fun, and she's being honest about what she wants... nothing wrong with any of that. The only problem is she's feeling bad about it. If she sincerely wants to stop playing, she should man-up, clear her schedule, and change her life, but if if her primary concern is worry that she's the only one in the world who feels and acts this way, then let me assure her, it is not so. What you want is honorable and lovely, and you should feel great about wanting it.

Charlie Goodnight commented on Mar 01 10 at 12:24 pm

ADD doesn't need therapy; she just maybe needs to stay in for a while. I was like this until I was about 27. Then I just outgrew it. That's not to say I didn't hurt people (a la 500 Days of Summer), I did; it was definitely selfish of me to take advantage of a boy's time and attention when I only merely liked him and he liked me a lot more. I definitely wielded the truth as a weapon ("But I told you I only wanted to date and I didn't want to be your girlfriend!") That made me a not very nice person, but that's a separate argument. There's nothing wrong with her, or with her wanting to date casually. The ethical thing to do in her situation is to only date those who are also into 50s-style dating. It's the ones that fall in love with you that you have to cut off.

AND THE OTHER THING--people say that those of us who are/were serial daters have issues with commitment are right; I do have issues with commitment; commitment TO YOU. I have had no problem staying committed to people to whom I wanted to be committed. I just don't think that most people are worth committing to. Boyfriends are a pain in the ass.

alr commented on Mar 01 10 at 12:48 pm

There's a difference between having issues with commitment, and constantly going out on dates with allegedly "great" guys when you have zero interest in POTENTIALLY either having sex or having a relationship. The former is totally normal; the latter is at least dishonest and maybe pathological.

People don't date to have brief platonic encounters. That can be nice, but if you know you're not looking for love or sex, you shouldn't be dating. Otherwise you're wasting a person's time, money, and attention.

ADD sounds like she's probably very attractive, intelligent, and charming in person. She gets interest from men, and tells herself that it's OK to date them as long as she's upfront about not wanting sex or a relationship.

But I think on a deeper level she KNOWS they'll hope that it's just a line, and expects them to fall for her, at least a little bit. And she finds that gratifying. It's the perfect setup: she can have both the benefit of an endless stream of male attention, the pleasure of repeatedly shooting them down, and also absolve herself of responsibility because after all, she said she wasn't really available.

I think it's sadistic, and it sucks. And the fact that some of us can relate to it -- and who among us hasn't done at least a bit of this? -- doesn't mean it isn't sadistic, shitty behavior. It just means that many of us went through a period in our lives when we were acting like assholes who lacked compassion for the people we were USING. And that's what this behavior is: using another person for one's own gratification. Period.

@alr commented on Mar 01 10 at 1:16 pm

It's pretty clear that the first writer needs to dump her 4-month old relationship. If you have absolutely nothing good to say about someone 4 months in, what makes you think it's going to get any better? And that's regardless of whether you decide to take up with new guy or not.

ADD sounds highly annoying. A date every night of the week? Where do you have time for you? For your school work? For your friends? Do you even have any friends (any "friend" of mine who never made time for anything but dates would become an ex-friend pretty quickly). When do you have time to do the frigging groceries if you're out smiling at a new man every day of the week?

First dates are fun (or awful) but they're not very authentic. The depths to which you get to know someone over a casual dinner or drink are pretty shallow indeed. You get an idea of their main interests, their job/talents and sense of humour... but not much more. If the majority of social time that you spend interacting with other humans is completely superficial, what does that say about you?

I'm not saying give up dating, but cut it back. Look for quality not quantity. Go on a couple of great dates a week and spend the other nights with your friends or simply invest time in yourself.

R.M. commented on Mar 01 10 at 1:20 pm

What a whiner you are! Casual dating is not SADISTIC. Your post makes you come across as really bitter and angry at the opposite sex. My guess is that you don't get much play with the ladies.

@ the post above commented on Mar 01 10 at 1:28 pm

I meant the @alr post, not the RM one.

@ the post above commented on Mar 01 10 at 1:28 pm

Casual dating isn't sadistic if all parties are on the same page. But the way ADD is doing it? I think she gets off on the attention, and gets off on using people. I've known too many people, MALE AND FEMALE, who do this kind of shit and who hurt good people. If you can find anything in my post that confines it to a particular gender or sexual orientation, be my guest. P.S. Sex life's just fine, thanks for asking.

@@ the post above commented on Mar 01 10 at 1:36 pm

Dear Miss,

You are hot!!! Hmm Hmmm Good!!
Lets see eachother.
I'm so into you,

pjc

pjc commented on Mar 01 10 at 1:39 pm

Fuck "talking online," which I assumes means instant messenger and not video chat. Computers aren't comfortable, they aren't relaxing, they aren't natural (as I comment on a website.) Use a telephone and put the speakerphone on, so your hands and your head are unencumbered.

Eric commented on Mar 01 10 at 4:50 pm

it's not nice to lead someone on, i.e., let them believe that there is more to the connection than there is. so if ADD isn't being honest with her suitors then that's not cool. however, everyone goes into dating risking getting hurt and disappointed. simply going on a date doesn't necessarily imply a person is seeking a relationship or sex; it's just spending time with someone. of course, most of us do want a relationship and/or sex, but a first date,or dating someone once or twice, well, how much do we "owe" the person except the normal respect we should give people we spend time with?

clara commented on Mar 02 10 at 11:26 am

"I say it’s not a matter of like or dislike. Sometimes cutting people off is being the most caring."

Yeah, this just about sums it up. She sounds incredibly self-centered and is looking for someone to absolve her or tell her what she's doing is okay.

MW commented on Mar 02 10 at 7:03 pm

@clara: Re: "simply going on a date doesn’t necessarily imply a person is seeking a relationship or sex"

Yes, it does. If you already know in advance that you're not seeking either, then you shouldn't be going on a "date" with anyone, you should be telling people you meet that you're only interested in making new friends. If you set a "date" with someone when you know you're not seeking anything more than friends, you're misleading them, potentially wasting their time/money/attention, and probably pissing them off if they realize the situation.

If you want "friends first, maybe more later", that's also not a "normal" date. You should tell them in advance, they can decide if they want such a low-key dating process, and they may handle things differently than a typical dating process.

If you do end up on a "date", you don't owe them anything, other than letting them know when the dating is no longer going to go anywhere other than friends.

Heh, well, there's the whole debate about if you allow someone to pay, have you then allowed yourself to be put in a position where you do "owe" them...something?

Jay commented on Mar 03 10 at 2:12 am

I took a break from dating for an entire year. It was a breath of fresh air on some days and the hardest fucking thing I ever had to do on other days (well, mostly nights really). During my long hiatus, I learned a lot about what kind of person I wanted, what kind of person I am, and how to be a good girlfriend and a good friend in general.

kissabledimplz commented on Mar 03 10 at 3:14 am

I disagree with you Jay.

There is something that exists between date-because-I-want-a-relationship and date-because-I-enjoy-someone's-company-and-would-like-to-make out-with-them.

Ask anyone in the older generation about it. They went on casual dates all the time.

Flynn commented on Mar 03 10 at 12:21 pm

@Flynn: That fits my world view fine. Want-to-make-out is more than I-just-want-a-friend, and making-out is slightly sexual, and happens when there's more attraction than just friends. I'd be just fine calling that a "date". It may never go past making-out, and that's ok, but if someone has a desire to make-out with me, that's more than just wanting to be my friend, and that's a "date" :)

Jay commented on Mar 03 10 at 12:44 pm

@Jay and Flynn: I think the point is that she needs to communicate exactly what her limitations are to the person she's dating, so they don't get burned. And if she does so and it's still clear that person wants more than she is willing to give, she needs to break it off and tell them exactly why, rather than just continue to use them for ego gratification, attention, whatever..

MW commented on Mar 03 10 at 1:08 pm

I took a break from dating when I got married, and it's worked out great.

ProfRobert commented on Mar 03 10 at 4:49 pm

I do not understand you, ADD. You're going out on "dates", and I guess telling these guys that they're on dates, but you won't get physical (does this mean you don't kiss/make out, or does it mean you just don't have sex?) and doesn't want any intimate romantic attachments. I don't see how this is different from wanting to be friends, or just looking for a companionable movie or conversation. Quit saying it's a date, or letting them think it's a date. Tell them it's just a friendly thing. If that bothers you, you need to think about whether you're maybe just getting a kick out of getting their hopes up and then dashing them. You do know how to be friends with people of the opposite sex, don't you?

SD commented on Mar 03 10 at 8:44 pm

Right on.

@SD commented on Mar 04 10 at 3:17 am

I took a good year break after a relationship that made me realize I was not caring enough for myself and had been dating people because I felt like they needed my help. So I took some time out for me, and although I met a really sweet guy barely a month after ending that relationship, I made it clear that I couldn't allow myself a relationship because I wanted to clear my head and heart, so to speak. It took me that whole year, but I realized that of all the men I had told "I'm not ready for a commitment" to in that year long "girl's night out", I had met the perfect man for me that first month. It's now three years later we are happily engaged. Basically what I'm trying to say is, taking the time to make yourself happy will help you make better decisions in the long run.

Cherry commented on Mar 04 10 at 9:05 pm

The only break I want is a permanent one from fucked up people who waste my time. I'm 40, I know who I am and what I want, and the thought of avoiding men in that context for a year ot whatever is not appealing. I'm looking good, and I know what I want: a good man, who is kind, I find attractive and who wants to share his life with me. I'm sure I'll get a comment from somebody that is either spiteful because of my age, or which tells me I should still seek that break, but I want to take up every opportunity I can in life from now on, and that includes doing stuff for myself and seeking a mate.

ella commented on Mar 05 10 at 9:42 am

I do not understand people like her. I don't mind going out with my friends (especially the female ones), and I would like to go out with someone to find out if there is a possibility of continuation, (that is, chemistry). Casual dating seems to me to be abt as much fun as setting fire to a pile of cash and a lot more expensive. But then I'm a guy, what do I know?

David commented on Mar 05 10 at 8:30 pm

"setting fire to a pile of cash"? Maybe David hit the nail on the head as to what ADD is doing and why she feels slutty. Maybe ADD is what some call a "dinner whore". She's going out (selling her attention/beauty?) for the cheap entertainment, looking for a guy to give her a little fun attention, flowers, free drinks, and free food/entertainment. But because ADD isn't actually connecting with any of them (& because they're only going to throw-away their cash on her for so long), she flits to the next.

ADD is an excellent example of why the first extended 1-on-1 interaction should always be just meeting for a drink or a coffee. Spend an hour interacting. If isn't working for both of you, move on, go call a friend, and take your friend out to dinner. Not some near-stranger you will never see again.

Jay commented on Mar 06 10 at 2:18 am

You could be right Jay, but it also might not be about money. Some girls are looking for a man to *take care of them* because Daddy wouldn't. But since they identify these guys so closely with their father, the non-crazy ones usually subconsciously don't want to fuck the guy. The really fucked up ones do both, of course...but those usually hate their mother, too. Electra complex, anyone?

ha commented on Mar 06 10 at 5:24 am

I think it's pretty safe to say the main reason ADD is feeling "slutty" is she's beginning to realize she's treating people like shit. Simple as that. Anyone who thinks they can make the argument for therapy or some sort of psychosexual sickness based on what little info is provided probably has too much time on their hands and not enough important things to occupy their mind. Not judging....

Ricochet commented on Mar 06 10 at 6:08 am

flynn and jay... good on ya... you're my type of men

clara commented on Mar 08 10 at 12:56 pm

oops! i meant flynn...

jay, it sounds like you kind of make things complicated. a date is simple: you go out, spend time with someone, see if you connect on any level...see if you want to spend more time with that person, and if you do then you do.

clara commented on Mar 08 10 at 12:58 pm

Having decided, after a slew of catastrophes, to chill for a bit... I met my partner of 10 years at the corner.

cjm commented on Mar 18 10 at 11:03 pm

Poster sounds like a Myers-Briggs ENFP. Look it up, it might help you to read about it.

anon commented on Mar 26 10 at 8:31 pm

You people talk about two month breaks from dating as though that were some sort of achievement. Try 3 + years and then get back to me.

JPrufrock commented on Apr 21 10 at 4:50 am

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