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Larry Flynt’s new book about the sex lives of our founding fathers

Larry Flynt is always arguing that he contributes to society — by creating some First Amendment legal precedents, by helping people get off, by making all that porn. And now, he’s put forth something new: a work of history. One Nation Under Sex, co-written with Columbia Professor David Eisenbach (not the guy who just got tried for having incestual relations with his daughter — that was Epstein) was published on Tuesday. A tidbit:

Ben Franklin helped save the American Revolution by seducing French women, Dolley Madison slept around, and James Buchanan’s gay love affair with a slave owner was a boon for secessionists. Abe Lincoln liked to share beds with men (in wealthy homes where there were many beds to choose from) and Eleanor Roosevelt’s lesbian affairs helped her become a crusader for equal rights. Oh, and Bill Clinton is a less selfish lover than JFK ever was.

Apparently, the book is more analytical and historically sound than you’d imagine — more Eisenbach than Flynt. However, the question probably still remains whether or not it’s a worthwhile project. Does delving into the private lives of public figures count as a worthy historical endeavor? Reading about other people’s sex lives is obviously fun, but our fascination also contributes to a culture where personal foibles can often be confused with public inadequacy. Or, you know, a president can be impeached for a blowjob.

Comments ( 18 )

Apr 29 11 at 2:15 am
notfromaroundhere

Obviously, female judges shouldn't be allowed to rule on abortion cases. And black, white, Asian and Latino judges should recuse themselves from cases involving racism. Plus, heterosexual judges can't rule on gay marriage because, as opponents claim, gay marriage undermines straight marriages.

Apr 29 11 at 10:42 am
Hiltz

A judge who owns stock in AT&T is expected to recuse himself from a case with AT&T. Since the judge is a resident of California, who stands to benefit economically if he is allowed to marry his partner, then he probably should have recused himself.

Since he chose not to reveal his relationship until after his retirement, it creates the appearance of hiding material information. Poor, poor judgement on his end.

Apr 29 11 at 12:48 pm
BenReininga

I agree. No one is more in favor of gay marriage than I am, but - from a legal ethics standpoint - I think he screwed up. His vested interest (financial) is different than an 'ethical' vested interest. The law concerns the former and not the latter, I think.

Apr 29 11 at 2:58 pm
sp80

I don't agree. it's not news that he is gay. if he wanted to marry his partner of a decade, he could have easily done so during that brief period when marriage was legal in California (and he did not). That would actually argue to the point that he is not interested in marrying his partner and therefore would not benefit economically from this case. Trying to tie this into a possible financial interest is shaky at best.

sp80

Apr 29 11 at 11:02 am
dave1976

What about a homophobic straight judge who thinks gay marriage is ruining society? Does he need to disclose his homophobia and recuse himself? The thing about social issues is that everyone has an opinion and vested interest in our society (as opposed to, let's say, a shareholder dispute where the judge owns stock in the company). Whether you're gay or straight, everyone is impacted by Prop 8, so it's impossible to find a judge that does not have a vested interest.

Apr 29 11 at 11:37 am
Topher Cooper

Obviously, all judges should recuse themselves in murder and theft trials because someday they might want to kill someone or steal something so they would benefit from lenient judgments in such cases.

Apr 29 11 at 1:09 pm
Moops

It's even worse: most criminals are human, not to mention most victims, so therefore human judges should recuse themselves from all cases.

Apr 29 11 at 2:20 pm
BenReininga

But surely you recognize a difference between a judge on a case that pertains to two humans, and a case that pertains to two humans, one of whom is his father?

No one is saying that anyone is completely impartial -- subjectivity is human. But there's legal and illegal lack of impartiality.

Would you say the same thing if a judge who'd upheld DOMA, it turned out, would get a few thousand dollars a year from the government if it passed? Would that be cool?

Apr 29 11 at 3:36 pm
Dan

No, but if the same judge who upheld DOMA is in a heterosexual relationship? Is his ruling ANY less biased than Walker's, according to your understanding of this? I mean, the argument supporting DOMA is that gay marriage would undermine heterosexual marriages. Wouldn't a heterosexual judge have the same bias as a gay one? Are we supposed to find a self-identified asexual judge for this case to be judged fairly?

Apr 30 11 at 11:47 pm
notfromaroundhere

BenReininga flunked Logic 101.

May 01 11 at 2:28 am
Topher Cooper

The argument was that since the judge was gay, he should have recused himself because he had an interest in the outcome. His interest would be that he might want to get married someday and his decision would effect his ability to do so. Proposing that judges recuse themselves because they someday might have an interest in the outcome is rather different proposition than that judges recuse themselves because they presently have a personal or financial interest in the outcome.

May 03 11 at 12:09 pm
hesse

Your argument is ridiculous. Straight people have an interest in the outcome, believe me. In fact, the most vociferous arguments regarding gay marriage are from married straight people who shouldn't care, but do because they are religious and/or closeted gays. by your argument, we should ban women and minorities from judging rape, sexual assault and discrimination cases, then, because only white males are objective. Banning a gay judge from judging on a gay issue is insulting, especially when you look at all the conflict of interest going on with the Supreme Court (Scalia and Thomas are especially egregious), but you probably don't care about that because they aren't gay, right?

Apr 29 11 at 9:30 pm
Mel

I think the point of Lazar's resignation is more that he has lost the judgment to tell implying that women need to have lots of unprotected sex to be happy (Because semen is magic lady-happy juice, apparently) might be A) kind of sexist and B) kind of offensive and C) both not a funny joke and inappropriate for the forum in which he published it. You probably shouldn't be heading up a major organization at that point, no matter the distinguished past of your career

Apr 30 11 at 11:51 pm
notfromaroundhere

@Mel: A) He didn't imply "that women need to have lots of unprotected sex to be happy." B) There is nothing sexist about what he wrote. C) The article was peer-reviewed so the joke was apparently appropriate.

May 03 11 at 12:11 pm
hesse

I agree. Can't we take a joke, or are we so uptight and insecure that we're worried something might have meant that women and men are different and like each other?

Apr 29 11 at 11:14 pm
LLL

Straight judges rule in favor of straight marriage all the time and we don't hold them accountable for conflict of interest. This is fucked. There is no argument.

Apr 30 11 at 2:23 am
jill

Ben,
It's amazing to me that anything published in Surgery News is even read, must less read closely enough to create a scandal. I mean the supposedly horrible comment was, like, the last line in a long, boring-ass article. Readers would have to wade through pages and pages of sentences like this on the mating habits of the fruit fly: "It has long been known that Drosophila raised on starch media are more likely to mate with other starch-raised flies".

jill
https://inbedwithmarriedwomen.blogspot.com

May 01 11 at 11:08 am
eva Woods

I'm straight and live with my boyfriend who I love very much. I don't want to marry him. Also the fact that marriage could bring in a few thousand dollars to the household a year isn't proof that they want to get married. There are tons of ways to get a couple grand, and most are easier than marriage.

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