Focus on the Family: We've "lost" to gay marriage
By Libby RumeltMay 23rd, 2011, 5:03 pmComments (17)
The world didn't end on Saturday, but if things start to feel eerie next week, it's probably because Focus on the Family's President and CEO Jim Daly has officially admitted to "losing" the war on gay marriage. The major factors in their loss? The same factors that ruin things for everyone, everywhere: young people, cultural climate, and God.
The unexpected concession was made during an interview with WORLD Magazine, a bi-weekly Christian publication, where Daly also offers up his opinions on President Obama's marriage and the best way for Christians to set a better example for the world in the realm of marriage. Here's what Daly had to say about gay marriage, specifically:
We're winning the younger generation on abortion, at least in theory. What about same-sex marriage? We're losing on that one, especially among the twenty- and thirty-somethings: sixty-five to seventy percent of them favor same-sex marriage. I don't know if that's going to change with a little more age — demographers would say probably not. We've probably lost that. I don't want to be extremist here, but I think we need to start calculating where we are in the culture.
Daly continues to not be an "extremist" by suggesting that perhaps heightened support of gay marriage is God's way of telling Christians that they've done a poor job keeping their own marriages from falling apart. He also says that he's spoken to gay activists who have called him out on the fact that his religion isn't doing such a great job, something Daly clearly feels bad about. So maybe he should follow the golden rule and treat others the way he wants to be treated, right? Wrong. Daly's actual solution to the fifty-percent divorce rate is eliminating "no-fault divorce" in the church, which basically means that churches would kindly ask you to leave, should you not want to make your marriage work. Well, that's one way of doing it.
Commentarium (17 Comments)
'I think we need to start calculating where we are in the culture.'
That's an amazing self-realization coming from them. Best of luck in that regard. His thinking that God is punishing them by making others accept gay couples is odd. That's an incredible twist of logic, wouldn't it be easier to accept that God is making people embrace gay people because He embraces gay people??
God embraces gay people? No more than He embraces any other sinner. He loves the sinner while still remaining intolerant of the sin. Society has changed and embraced gay people just as it has pornography, legalization of drugs, adultery and other declines in morality as "progress"; God's judgement will not change just because society thinks that it should.
Well, thanks God, for sending down someone who completely understands Your will. Now that we have this issue solved, maybe we can move on to some of the more thorny theological issues.
It's actually very simple. If you believe in God and religion, then it's all about trying to understand His will. As one who does believe in the Bible, I don't recall a mention of a commandment or admonition changing because of the desire or will of the populace. I don't presume to speak for God or to fully understand His will, but I do believe what I believe based on scripture that I accept as truth. If you have you're own interpretation of scripture, good for you. If you don't believe in God, then your response to my earlier comment is asinine.
@no way - I couldn't agree more.
It's always interesting how some Christian religitards believe so much in a book that is touted to be "the word of god" yet is so flawed with so many contradictions.
Well, I hope he's right, but I think it'll be a few decades before the battle is truly over.
It will never be over. Even if gays achieve full equality under the law, they will try and parlay it into an advantage on the basis that anyone who disagrees with them is bigoted, regardless of the facts. Minorities have been doing it for years with affirmative action. Gays don't want equality, they want to be able to bitch-slap others. Don't believe me? Just read anything by Savage; the gay movement's Black Panther. Change through fear and intimidation. He calls for tolerance and yet completely belittles anyone who is Christian as believers in a "magic sky friend Jesus".
Huh? There's something wrong with "magic sky friend Jesus"? I mean, the way Christians represent him is as a real, palpable, living deity. When in fact they can't prove that he exists. How is that any worse than "imaginary leprechaun"?
When he realizes that his "loss" on gay marriage is in fact not a loss at all, he will have won.
+1
1 Timothy 1:9-11
New International Version (NIV)
9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine 11 that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.
Whatever. You're quoting a book heralded as "the unadulterated word of god" that is rife with inconsistencies and contradictions. (Just google it). Quoting your magic sky friend jesus book is as meaningful to me as quoting a novel by L. Ron Hubbard.
Romans 1:25-27
New International Version (NIV)
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
1 Corinthians 6:8-10 (New International Version)
8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Footnotes:
1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual acts.
Why are people like No Way and Michael reading Hooksexup?
Why are people like No Way and Michael reading Hooksexup? Because like all insecure people bound into a belief system, they fall victim to the human tendency to want to encourage others to make the same decisions that they did in order to validate their own belief system.
Now you say something