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I broke up with my boyfriend because we have to be in separate cities for two years. Should we have stuck it out?

By Dan Savage

My life is not horrible. I'm an American college student. Compared to most people in the world, I'm pretty well-off. I go to college in Bellingham, Washington — the weed is awesome, the weather is great, and there are lots of hot guys. Score! But! I'm a homo. And I didn't know how horrible my life was until I got here…

It seems like every gay/queer person who is involved in anything gay/queer on campus has this idea that gay people are so oppressed that we need to constantly discuss it and feel like victims. Don't get me wrong: we are a ways away from equality, and I recognize this. But it seems like the constant thread on college campuses for queers — other than talking about Lady Gaga or sucking dick — is complaining about how oppressed queer people are.

How do I respectfully say, "STFU, we're doing just fine, you white, upper-class American kids," without sounding like an insensitive assdouche?

— MG

You know, when I came out to my parents in 1981ishwhateversomething, telling my mom and dad that I was gay didn't just mean telling them I liked to kissandotherstuff boys. It meant telling them I would never marry, never have children, and never be a marine. Or at least that's what I thought I was telling them. But here we are, three short decades later, and I'm married. And I have a child. And now I can be a marine. (Not that I want to be a marine — well, not anymore. After seeing a pic of a shirtless Navy Seal in last week's New York Times, I want to be a Navy Seal.)

And I live in Seattle, where the weed is awesome (I'm told), the weather is great (if you like to snowboard), and the boy I marriedandkissandotherstuff is a lotta hot guy all by himself.

I agree with you, MG. Things are good. Things have gotten better — and not just for me.

But we have work left to do. We have our full civil equality to secure, homo- and transphobic violence to confront, bigoted lawmakers to defeat (hey there, Rick!). But the discrimination and challenges we face shouldn't prevent us from appreciating the good things. Yes, it has gotten better. That doesn't mean we can ignore the bashings and outrages and tragedies. But we shouldn't be so in love with our victimization — or so insecure about our progress — that we can't acknowledge the triumphs and joys and Navy Seals.

So I'm with you, MG — up to a point.

I disagree about the STFU part. You don't have to hang out with the kind of LGBT activists who aren't capable of fighting the good fight — fighting for their civil equality and mine and yours — while also appreciating all the good things about their lives. Not all LGBT activists are humorless scolds. Some are, for sure (and they tend to be overrepresented on college campuses), but there are plenty of people out there who can organize a protest one night and a good party the next.

Guys like you and me, MG, people who have it pretty good, have to remember that there are LGBT folks out there who have it lousy and not all of them are in a position to speak up for themselves. Let me see if I can think of an example… okay: There are bullied and isolated and abused LGBT kids out there who don't live in places like Bellingham or Seattle, who don't have the love and support of their parents, and who aren't "doing fine." If we don't speak up for isolated and bullied LGBT kids, who will? (For the record: there are lots and lots and lots of loved and accepted LGBT kids out there, too — not all LGBT kids are miserable — who are doing fine and fighting for their own rights and the rights of other LGBT kids.)

We don't have to mope. We don't have to pretend that we feel oppressed 24/7. And we don't have to attend pointless queer events that are run by LGBT whiners who mistake wallowing in self-pity for activism. You'll find, once you get out of college, that most of us aren't moping, pretending, or attending. Most of us are getting on with our lives and doing fine.

But, again, not all LGBT people are doing fine, MG, just as not all LGBT people are white or upper-class or in college or lucky enough to live in Bellingham. If you're in a position to do something, MG, you should. You don't have to do everything. Make your contribution. It doesn't have to take over your life, and you don't have to pretend to be any more oppressed than you actually are. But you should do something.

Remember: the only thing more annoying than a whiny, college-age queer with a persecution complex is a smug, college-age queer who takes his good fortune for granted and couldn't give a shit about other people because, hey, he's got his (his weed, his boys, his education).

 

I'm a twenty-six-year-old lady who just broke up with a man I thought I wanted to marry. We had incredible, playful sex, were very kind to each other, are both a little queer, and share many interests in spite of our twenty-year age difference.

Six months into our relationship, I moved to a bigger city four hours away, and we could see each other only every other weekend. Because of our careers, it wouldn't be possible for us to live in the same place again for at least two or three years, maybe more. That was one reason I broke up with him. I also feared that he needed to be with a man — even though he loves me to sit on his face. He's definitely bi, but he's never been with a man. I am, too, but having had girlfriends makes me comfortable knowing that I mostly want to be with men. Part of me is excited to be free to explore my new city on my own and trusts I made a mature decision. Part of me thinks I really fucked up to let go of a kind, fun — if slightly flawed (but they all are) — relationship. What do you think?

— Drowning My Sorrows In Glee

I think it's a wonderful thing to be twenty-six, bi, single, employed, and living in a big city. I think that a guy who's single, bi, and amazing in bed at forty-six is likely to be single, bi, and amazing in bed at forty-eight. (No guarantees, of course.) You should enjoy the next couple of years, DMSIG, and then revisit the issue of Mr. Wonderful if and when you two or circumstances conspire to put you in the same place again.

 

I have to take you to task for your answer to Sent From My iPhone. In your answer, you compared condoms and withdrawal as methods of birth control. As a former Planned Parenthood volunteer educator, I will tell you that, like withdrawal, condoms alone are never a recommended form of birth control. To compare these two "methods" is a little irresponsible. In fact, condoms alone weren't even on our list of birth-control methods. The good news is that condoms plus spermicide were on that list. When used together and properly, condoms and spermicide are almost as effective as the pill in preventing pregnancy.

— Loud Mouth About Birth Control

Thanks for sharing, LMABC.

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Commentarium (24 Comments)

May 10 11 - 11:46pm
nope

I think that was a pretty preachy and off-the-mark response to the first question. He explicitly said "Don't get me wrong: we are a ways away from equality, and I recognize this." And he made it pretty clear that he was talking about the white, middle-class, college-attending kids that were like him at school.

May 11 11 - 12:17am
masha

yeah, i sort of agree, though at least Dan was talking about engaging in activism in places that actually need it. I am a queer girl at a California liberal arts school and have gotten increasingly pissed off at lgbt activism here. When I noted it that we, as mostly white, upper-middle-class college students in SoCAL have it pretty good compared to gays in most parts of the world, people jumped down my throat. I'm sorry, but I think the "activism" on campus in which students sit around complaining about how oppressive the gender binary is doesn't in fact do anything to work against real oppression. it's preaching to the f-ing choir... so hopefully the lgbt scene in the real world is more tolerable. haha getting off my soap box now, just felt like a rant and this letter struck some chords with me.

May 11 11 - 1:14am
gorf

I think what Dan is getting at is that, these relatively privileged LGBT college students should engage in activism that supports LGBT causes in less privileged communities. I think that's a pretty good message. Middle class, white, LGBT college students shouldn't STFU...they should check their privilege and refocus.

May 11 11 - 4:15pm
Robert Paulsen

Part of the problem is college kids assume they will always be in college, or in college towns. Some will, and a lot of social ills will remain amorphous and distant throughout their lives. Most, however, will occasionally visit their parents, or go on business trips to Atlanta, or eventually settle down in something resembling the suburbs, where being a minority (sexual orientation, race, gender, religion) might make them gossip, might make them a threat, or might get them threatened. Eventually, you look shortsighted and fairly ignorant to the people you're trying to stop from engaging in activism.

May 11 11 - 12:01am
uh, ok

I think that's it's hilarious that he says, "not all LGBT are humorous scolds". He distances himself from them despite the fact that the term perfectly describes him. When it comes to civil rights for all he is downright militant about it with anybody who has the Hooksexup to disagree with him. What a douchebag.

May 11 11 - 1:08am
What

a savagely irritating segment of pop culture!

May 11 11 - 1:31am
gorf

I don't think Dan would object too strongly to being described as a "humorous scold"...it's the humorless scolds that are the problem

May 11 11 - 10:49am
JM

@uh, ok
by disagree you mean opposing equal rights for gays and lesbians? Is that what he's being militant about? Because that's just being principled.

May 11 11 - 5:54am
@MG

Yeah dude, there's still plenty more to be done around the world and even still in the United States. Ever thought what its like to be an underprivileged black lesbian in the US? Yeah, not most people do. Trust me, it sucks. And yes, I am fucking angry as hell about it. But hey, glad you all are doing fine at least!

May 13 11 - 10:11am
GF

How are you "underprivileged"?

May 11 11 - 9:34am
KingPellinore

I don't think the first letter was suggesting anybody STFU all the time, as Dan seems to have assumed. I got more of a sense that MG just wanted to know if there was a polite way to ask if there was another topic they could discuss, rather than "Lady Gaga or sucking dick...[or] complaining about how oppressed queer people are" 24/7.

May 11 11 - 10:09am
Mae

Really solid answers, Dan. Gentle but firm. Also, what the hell does everyone expect you will write to the first writer? You're a champion of those who are systematically denied equal rights. I expected a more aggressive answer.

I can offer this as a (hetero) resident of Mississippi: the LGBT community is openly persecuted here. There are larger cities with pockets of safe havens, but they're decades behind here. The fight is not over. The first writer, because of age, most likely doesn't care about marriage and adoption rights at this point in his life. However, he would be a lot more concerned with persecution if he saw the day in and day out harassment and open aggression that folks face here. Just because you aren't currently exercising a right or because you found a safe place on the map to be who you are doesn't mean that you won't one day wake up and want to marry the love of your life or adopt a baby. There are young men your age who fear for their lives every time they go in public with their boyfriend. Those guys (and gals) need rich, white college kids to stand up for them. Don't underestimate your importance.

*Steps off soapbox*

May 11 11 - 1:43pm
dude

I think the real question MG was asking was, "How do I get my friends to talk about things other than LGBT oppression and other obnoxiously clichéd gay shit?"

And I would say the answer is, "Make friends that you have more in common with than mutual homosexuality." Or take your current friends on non-activist activities, like going to (non-LGBT) films together, introducing each other to new music, playing a video game or sport together, whatever.

Nothing wrong with activism, and he never said he didn't think there was work to be done, but if it's all you hear about, 24/7, it can drive you a little batty. (I haven't been there with LGBT workers, but I've been there with environmentalists, and that's not fun either. Do I think it's tremendously important, do I care about new science concerning the environment, do I want to do everything I can? Of course. But right now, just shut the fuck up about your activism for five seconds!) And I think that's a legitimate issue, so it pisses me off that it was completely reframed in order to suit Savage's preach-of-the-week quota. Normally I agree with him, but that was fucked up.

May 11 11 - 2:18pm
ldzw

Well, Dan said humorless scolds, not humorous. HumorLESS.

May 11 11 - 2:26pm
chicating

as a disability activist, I feel like I can relate to letter writer 1. But I also think Dan gave a good answer. And, yeah, sometimes even activists need time out to tend(or develop) the other facets of our personalities...sometimes that "click!" of activist recognition is like a contact high or something.

May 11 11 - 8:48pm
curmudgeon

Or just ask the complainers "Ok, so you're gay. What else are you?"

And I think Dan was trying to say that there's a difference between reflexive whining and purposeful activity.

May 12 11 - 4:59pm
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May 12 11 - 5:09pm
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May 12 11 - 10:16pm
AH

To the first letter writer - if the LGBT club at your school is too militant, do what my (gay, male) best friend did in college : start a new club. His was focused on planning parties, mostly, but also helped convince the film club to show a few gay-themed movies, and helped organize a group of people to march at our local pride parade. His group was also vocally open to the straight community - that helped "scared" straight people realize that their gay classmates were really not so different. Which is a different sort of activism, I suppose.

May 15 11 - 1:58am
Rj

First of all. Dan Savage that commercial made me cry. Second of all, the first response flipped back and forth too much and blamed the writer for opinions he never claimed to have.

Jun 11 11 - 1:44pm
Jorja

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Jun 12 11 - 9:25am
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