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Kyle, 26

How would you classify dating in San Francisco?
I would say it's difficult to date in San Francisco. I'm usually thrown into casual social gatherings rather than formal dates. But I prefer the parties where people introduce one another and you meet that way, rather than trying to buy a stranger a drink or something.

What do you think is a good date to take someone on in the city?
I think a Thursday night at the Academy of Sciences is a great one. They have a bar and you look at the exhibits and can talk. It's something different that is easier than having to create all the conversation — you can point to things and have that type of dialogue.

That sounds fun and different.
Yeah, and then I might meet up with friends after we've had time to get to know one another, because I think it's really essential that I see if they can get along with my friends as well.

Do you have any dealbreakers?
I don't think there is such a thing as a dealbreaker. I'm pretty open and give people the chance to explain themselves. Though I do find it to be a turnoff if someone is too overtly sexual on the first date.

Do you think it's different if you're friends with someone before a first date?
Yeah, different. I think that you can move a bit faster physically with someone you've known previously than with someone you just met. For newly acquainted people it is best to keep it in your pants for date number one.

How do you feel about dating at work?
I have liked someone whom I work with, but there are just so many dynamics that change, and I think it's best to keep social things on one side and professional things on the other side.

So you wouldn't want to date someone in your field?
Yeah. I'm in advertising, and when I come home to relax I don't want to talk about advertising. I want to ask them about their day and hear about something completely different then what I experienced. I think it just creates a better dynamic when you come from different places and have different things to bring to the table.

What would make you break up with someone?
Anyone without any aspirations or dreams is just not for me. Also, anyone with an agenda where they have set out that they need to be married by this particular age or have kids at this age. I don't want to be put on someone else's timetable.

Has that ever happened?
Yeah, I dated a girl and a few months in I picked up on her eagerness to get really committed, and I broke it off. Sure enough, she jumped into another relationship and got married really quickly. So I'm glad I noticed that vibe and got out of that situation.

 

Tabby, 22

What do you do for a living?
Marketing and branding.

Does that get you any dates?
Not as of yet, and I'm constantly working, so there's no free time to date.

So you're single right now?
Yeah. I recently got out of a long relationship at the same time my work schedule blew up into eighty-hour weeks. I miss having a life.

Have you ever had any terrible dates?
Yeah, actually. When I was eighteen and living in the school dorms, everyone would list their iTunes status. This guy messaged me that he liked the song I was listening to, and we started talking and Facebooking one another. Then one random night he messaged me that we should hang out and drink his peach vodka.

Peach vodka. Classy.
Yeah, I clearly didn't care. So I went over to his dorm and he played me his crummy keyboard music and got really drunk and cuddled. The next morning I woke up and had to slip off to my eight-a.m. class — only to later receive the Facebook relationship request that this guy had sent that morning.

Please say you said no.
Of course. I instantly clicked no. I mean we didn't even talk about this. And then to make it all worse, the guy messaged me later asking why I didn't confirm our Facebook relationship.

He didn't even try to play it off?
Nope. This is my life. And for weeks he was pleading me that we need to talk this out and I should give him a chance. I even saw him in person one day and before I could even start talking to him about his crazy-stalker status, he was crying.

How did you finally get him to leave you alone?
That's what makes this story even worse. I had this brilliant idea: since the one time we hung out we were both drunk, I thought I would tell him that I had a drinking problem and really needed to focus on myself and my sobriety. He will still message me once every eight months. I immediately delete and ignore.

What's the way to your heart?
Cookies are the way to anyone's heart. On every job-application cover letter I write, I specifically say that I make great cookies, and if you hire me I will bring cookies to the office. The last interview I went on, they asked me about it, and honestly, I don't even really like making cookies.

So the way to someone's heart is lying.
Yes!

Do you have any turn-offs?
I know it's kind of terrible, but if I find out that a guy goes to church regularly, I think they're less hot. I have to be honest with myself and it's the truth.

 

Tom, 23

How has the dating scene been treating you?
This last girl I went on a date with was actually one of the best dates I'd had in a while. We really connected amazingly well and, you know, all that bullshit. But then a few days later I see on Facebook that "such and such and douchebag are now in a relationship."

Ouch.
Yeah. I totally wasn't getting the fun-friend-date vibe — I was getting the "I might be into you vibe" — so I was caught off-guard. And we went out another time, and that date went just as well as the first date, so I had to bring up the "so Facebook told me you're in a relationship" thing. And she said that this guy had requested a the online relationship, but she didn't have the discussion and doesn't think they are in a relationship.

Who are these people who broadcast relationships to their hundreds of friends without having the define-the-relationship conversation in person?
Right? There are two crazy people involved. The one who asks for the relationship and the one who awkwardly confirms it even though she doesn't think they're in one! I don't get it.

Any great dates that went better?
Yeah. Back in my junior college, I was the editor-in-chief of my campus paper, and I was into this chick. And on this one day, we had a bomb threat on campus and I was delegating all of the reporters and photographers to go here and do this. I was feeling like kind of a badass, since that's a big deal in a junior college. That day I was high on the adrenaline, and it was the catalyst for me to ask out this girl finally, and we ended up dating for quite a while.

What's the way to a girl's heart?
Be kind of a jerk to them. I mean that in the nicest way possible. You can't be mean, but you can't show them you are too into them. You need to just be a little bit jerky to them. I like someone who challenges me.

Have you ever had any red flags in a relationship?
I had one issue where a girl couldn't really date me because I wasn't a "pure Christian." It shocked me, because in the Bay Area I forget that people do that.

How do you determine whether someone is religious to the point it might hinder your dating?
I think I have the litmus test for this: ask them what they think of Harry Potter. If they're like, "Oh, that's from the devil and teaches the youth about witchcraft," then I know they're that kind of religious, because Harry Potter is like pure good.

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Comments ( 69 )

Apr 28 11 at 12:41 am
Shayna

Tom is 23? #noway

Apr 28 11 at 1:59 am
I

I came to say the same thing...

Apr 28 11 at 12:41 pm
CaliForMe

Between Tom and Eri, the title of the piece should be "Talking to Receding Hairlines."

Apr 28 11 at 8:11 pm
TYB

There's just no way.

Apr 29 11 at 12:46 am
right?

least 20 years off

Apr 29 11 at 4:32 pm
Ayuh

Nobody is mentioning the glasses?

Apr 29 11 at 10:53 pm
actually, yeah

I know Tom. Don't let the hairline fool you - he's kind of got a Benjamin Button thing going on.

Apr 30 11 at 7:09 pm
yikes

I would believe that, except it's impossible, so yeah...

Apr 28 11 at 1:09 am
shannon

palm trees on the beach in SF ? really?

Apr 28 11 at 2:51 am
jr

SF has palm trees, but that picture is clearly Venice Beach in LA.

Apr 28 11 at 9:57 am
Gudknit

That's the Marina, ya yutz.

Apr 28 11 at 10:23 am
JRB

That is NOT the Marina. The Marina doesn't have shops and stuff like that. And there are palm trees up and down Guerrero

Apr 28 11 at 12:00 pm
jr

@Gudknit: Oh, really? Maybe you should take your yutzy eyes down a few comments to where the editor confirms the picture is NOT The Marina and get back to me.

Apr 28 11 at 12:37 pm
CaliForMe

@Gudknit - That's LA, you gudknit, just north of Venice Beach.

Apr 28 11 at 1:39 pm
aa

that is venice beach for sure. i don't know why they put that in this sf edition. straight up venice beach. bikinis in SF are on a rare day. that strip with packed crowds , vendors, palm trees is venice beach. i've been there a million times.

Apr 28 11 at 1:39 pm
aa

there are palm trees in SF by the way. dolores street. and dolores park for sure.

Apr 28 11 at 8:16 pm
SM

If you knew the Marina, you'd know there wasn't a beach or boardwalk anywhere like the one shown. Closest beach is west of marina green, and there are definitely no palm trees in the marina...you yutzy!

Apr 29 11 at 10:44 pm
hkc

that is not san francisco. period. end of discussion.

Apr 30 11 at 1:18 am
helenwheels74

totally venice beach... i was there in september. loved it! fun day!

Apr 28 11 at 1:45 am
Akeem

I can't be the only person who immediately on sight wanted to punch Eric in the face.

Apr 28 11 at 2:48 am
yoyo

His conditioning on everything is probably the thing I most fear in potential boyfriends! He's not bad looking or anything, but just...scary.

Apr 28 11 at 12:40 pm
CaliForMe

I think the chick he was talking about peed on his face on purpose.

Apr 29 11 at 4:26 pm
Ayuh

Euroweenie

Apr 28 11 at 2:45 am
janexx

Tom is sex with glasses. Harry Potter, hehe, I liike it. Horny Thursday fantasy, check.

Apr 28 11 at 4:22 am
Anon

The pic with the two girls is in Venice Beach. Get your geography straight Hooksexup edit staff. Really?? Don't you know they'r about 350 miles apart...that's like NYC to Boston yo...lameness.

Apr 28 11 at 4:41 am
julian

picked up on this too. i'm disappointed Hooksexup.

Apr 28 11 at 8:21 am
BenReininga

Sorry guys, but give us the benefit of the doubt!

All the people here live in SF and were interviewed in SF. Athena and Kamaile's picture didn't turn out, but we loved the interview, so we asked them for another one.

I guess we could have called it "Talking to Strangers: San Francisco Residents." Or "Talking to Strangers: San Francisco, except for that one photo"

Thanks for reading!

Apr 28 11 at 4:48 pm
src

Geez, peeps are so quick to jump down the editors' throats. It's obvious the pic wasn't taken at the interview, so what?

MY QUALM is young Tom here…Is '23' a misprint?

Apr 28 11 at 5:57 am
lezley

I was just wondering how they talked to this many people in SF and didn't find one gay man. So, Hooksexup just makes this shit up?

Apr 28 11 at 12:42 pm
CaliForMe

There are gay men in San Francisco? Is this generally known?

Apr 28 11 at 2:33 pm
LAP

They interviewed two gay women. Is there a quota on column gayness?

Apr 28 11 at 8:31 am
UHHUH

Kyle, where have you been all my life? You are a dream boat.

Apr 28 11 at 9:01 am
xyzzy

I really want to believe that Eri's encounter was squirting and not peeing...

Apr 28 11 at 10:03 am
K

I agree! It could have been. I wonder if that would change the way he thinks about that story.

Apr 28 11 at 1:42 pm
aa

yea. i think the dude prolly didn't know the distinction between squirting and peeing. though if he really was getting her off. he should know better.

Apr 29 11 at 11:18 pm
squirtz McGee

Pretty sure she was just a squirter... Sometimes it does feel like there's just a great whiz coming on. If the woman in the story hadn't heard of female ejaculation as such, I can understand why she (or he!) would think she was peeing. This poor girl has probably gone through this a thousand times, holding back before orgasm because she's afraid of wetting the bed!

Apr 28 11 at 9:53 am
@Tom

Um, when I a guy is "kind of a jerk in the nicest way possible" the last thing I want to do is date the fucker.

Apr 28 11 at 4:54 pm
W

You are the exception..

Apr 29 11 at 1:54 am
SMcg

Nope - I'm another girl who has no time or tolerance for that bullshit. You only live once - if I care about someone I'm going to let them know it. I expect the same in return. I dropped any guys who tried to play the game with me and I'm always left with the sweet caring ones

May 02 11 at 5:51 pm
eva

Every time a guy tries that "kind of a jerk" BS, I call him on it, then never call him again. Game playing wussies.

Apr 28 11 at 10:03 am
K

I love Tabby's terrible date. Creepy situation, but it made me laugh. :)

Apr 28 11 at 1:26 pm
Tabby

meow.

Apr 28 11 at 11:55 am
eye

Really bothered by the couple for some reason. The gal in the hat seems like bad, bad news.

Apr 28 11 at 12:44 pm
CaliForMe

Maybe she went to evil vet school? Actually, at 25, it's not too likely she's a graduate of a vet school. My guess: Vet Tech and Paralegal.

Apr 28 11 at 4:18 pm
geebee

Vet = Veteran?

Apr 28 11 at 7:39 pm
HBC

I took that comment to mean that she was a veteran of dating.

Apr 29 11 at 1:56 am
SMcg

I'm a veterinary student and will be graduating at 26. Grad at 25 is possible but very very rare (26 is rare too since few people go to vet school straight out of college). I agree though that she meant veteran of dating.

Apr 28 11 at 1:46 pm
ke

Academy of Sciences? Kyle, I'm in love.
Also: he has perfect teeth like whoa.

May 01 11 at 8:03 pm
Totally!!!!!

You're gonna have to fight me for that Kyle. Kyle, call me.

Apr 28 11 at 2:52 pm
KC

Tom is the oldest looking 23 year old I've seen!

Apr 28 11 at 3:40 pm
GW

I wouldn't mention anything about making cookies in a job application cover letter unless it was for a job in the food service industry.

Apr 28 11 at 5:06 pm
I

I don't know, that would definitely impress my two-year-old.

Apr 30 11 at 12:57 am
Tabby

you'd be surprised.. it's worked multiple times

Apr 28 11 at 4:33 pm
src

Hmm, that's an interesting thought. Methinks a nice apartment is the way to a girl's heart. At least mine.

Apr 28 11 at 5:41 pm
espresso

Kyle is sexy.

Apr 28 11 at 6:38 pm
dani

i cringe every time i read an SF edition of Strangers, I swear not all of us are so lame!

Apr 30 11 at 12:15 pm
BenReininga

You should do one! Show us where the cool people hang out.

Apr 28 11 at 8:14 pm
SM

Where the heck was the photo taken of Athena and Kamaile? It doesn't look like anywhere in SF that I know of. Looks like Venice Beach, LA.

Apr 28 11 at 8:59 pm
GW

Scroll up a bit to the comments at the top. The Hooksexup Editor confirmed that photo is from Venice Beach, LA.

Apr 28 11 at 8:27 pm
Avery

They might have just asked her to submit a photo of herself, and she chose one of when she was in Venice Beach. Doesn't mean she wasn't in SF when they interviewed her.

Apr 28 11 at 11:33 pm
ash

Tom is 23 and I'm a unicorn.

Apr 29 11 at 9:52 am
Moops

Actually his birthday is February 29... so his real age is 92.

Apr 29 11 at 7:51 pm
tom is 26

hey, i'm on the internet! and i'm 26, turning 27 this year. i've always looked a bit older than i am, which was nice when i was 16, but not so helpful now.

Apr 29 11 at 8:01 pm
MRAGH

Tabby: beautiful, but terrible name. My kittens are tabbies...

Tom: is he actually wearing glasses with no lenses? Really?

Apr 29 11 at 8:46 pm
tom is 26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-reflective_coating

gah. this is becoming my life: https://xkcd.com/386/

Apr 30 11 at 1:40 pm
Secret Character

@ BenReininga I would have LOVED to have seen that title. Absurdly meticulous care in printing and publishing haha. It would have been clumsy, unappealing, humorous and most importantly, right.

May 01 11 at 6:30 am
simon

You've got a fan in england Tabby, though i think you should do the men of SF a favour and cut down on your work hours.

May 01 11 at 1:02 pm
Tom Fan

Tom is great. Kind eyes, great answers. If only he didn't live across the country...

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