Watch: Howard Dean calls Fox News a "propaganda organization"
By Jeff MillsApril 3rd, 2011, 2:00 pmComments (16)
In a recent Carnegie Mellon speech, former DNC chairman Howard Dean appeared to be auditioning for a job at Media Matters as he ripped Fox News yet another new one for their gossamer truthiness, calling the news channel "a very expensive, incredibly well-funded, right-wing propaganda organization."
Dean, still smarting from a presidential run derailed by the infamous Iowa "scream" speech, pointed out that across-the-spectrum media bias is not the problem, noting the overt biases of The New York Times, MSNBC, and The Wall Street Journal, but the intentional dissemination of falsehoods (such as the repeated hammering of the death-panel story) that Fox News traffics in is. He also tinkered with the semantics of the old Hillary Clinton "vast, right-wing conspiracy" line, saying it's not a conspiracy when you do things in the open.
Dean also wrote off the Tea Party as an angry, over-fifty-five, white, shrinking minority, saying that's why "they've gotten so off the deep end." Whether this is true or not, Dean can't discount the fact that it was another populist, grassroots movement that allowed him to even be a viable candidate back in '03-'04. With no real political commitments at the present time, look for plenty more candid speeches in the future from ol' screamin' Dean.
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Comments ( 16 )
Howard Dean...libertarian firebrand?
Hmm. If the Tea Party is truly a "grassroots" organization, why did it need millions from the Koch brothers? (And if you don't know who they are, you haven't been paying attention.)
The real point of this article, though, should be that the viewers of Fox are vastly misinformed, even compared to other TV news viewers -see the study by PIPA from 2003. (This begs the question: are people who get their information from Fox less intelligent to begin with, or is Fox not interested in providing factual information? I would love to see how the Fox bigwigs would answer that. ) Getting back on point, though: a poorly informed populace is dangerous to democracy, and Fox viewers are poorly informed. That should be Dean's take home message.
What about George Soros? I'm chump change compared to him.
actually no - on the Forbes 400, the Koch Bros are tied at #5, with $21.5 billion apiece - Soros is #14, with $14.2 billion.
doesn't somebody say this about fox news like every day? what else would a career democrat say? this is hardly news.
It's not "news" to those who are too apathetic to care.
jr, i really don't think you know what "news" means.
Publius, so what?, HooksexupReader = all the same person.
Equally, I wonder that if the Tea Party is a "shrinking minority" why it needs to be so vehemently opposed? The reality is that the Tea Party is resonating with a huge number of American voters and the Democrat hierarchy is terrified.
Nice straw man, vis-a-vis Fox News viewers but not the point, is it?
If you look at who is making more of an effort to marginalize the Tea Partiers, there's an argument to be made that the _Republican_ leadership is truly terrified. Karl Rove's face-palming comes to mind. They stand to lose a lot more than Democrats do if the Tea Party is taken seriously, since both major parties have been moving to the center over the past 30 years. But then again, the paranoid birthers and militia types among the TP will likely hasten the self-implosion of the quote-unquote movement before it picks up any real steam, and this conversation will be moot by the second week of November 2012.
A shrinking minority that votes in high numbers and lives (predominantly) in red districts, giving them more power than they would otherwise have. As a party/movement, they are politically viable. You can be a shrinking minority and still be "terrifying," after all. And shrinking doesn't necessarily mean small; Dean is just saying that the loss/perceived loss of power is a source of angst for some whites over 55.
While I agree with some of your points, wgn, it brings up the same point: If "the paranoid birthers and militia types" will cause the Tea Party to implode, why is Dean concerned? I agree with your point that the Republican leadership is threatened by the conservative Tea Party movement.
The racism and ageism implied by S^2, on the other hand, is troubling and not supported by the facts (see the link below). On the heels of a very large victory in November, "some whites" are apparently experiencing angst? The demographics of the Tea Party are, according to Gallup, fairly mainstream with a significant mode found in Americans 30-49 years of age. And while I'm at it, why would Tea Party supporters enjoy more power in red districts? Because those districts would be even more "red?" I think it's precisely the fact that the Tea Party enjoys fairly broad support - including in left leaning districts - that is bothering Democrats.
https://www.gallup.com/poll/127181/tea-partiers-fairly-mainstream-demogra...
What's the point of this story? Are you implying Fox *isn't* a right-wing propaganda organization? Remember when Scanner had really great writers?
lol, he is right. Faux News makes it up as they go along lol.
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I find Fox news enlightening and not lying like the other channels, like Dan Rather. The whole left side lies about everything. As a matter of fact Dean you are a left wing nut ball. Go back inside your net. They let you out for one day and look what you do, go go!!!!
get with the times lady
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