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Posted by Bryan Christian

All right, class, as you may know, we occasionally like to slice a hunk of raw, intellectual meat off of the electrical side of beef that is the Internet, toss it your way, and watch you scrap over it while we drink a beer. Today's juicy morsel comes to us via the New York Times and author Caitlin Flanagan, and is a reaction to the hit indie adoption comedy Juno.

The movie “Juno” is a fairy tale about a pregnant teenager who decides to have her baby, place it for adoption and then get on with her life. For the most part, the tone of the movie is comedic and jolly, but there is a moment when Juno tells her father about her condition, and he shakes his head in disappointment and says, “I thought you were the kind of girl who knew when to say when.”

Female viewers flinch when he says it, because his words lay bare the bitterly unfair truth of sexuality: female desire can bring with it a form of punishment no man can begin to imagine, and so it is one appetite women and girls must always regard with caution. Because Juno let her guard down and had a single sexual experience with a sweet, well-intentioned boy, she alone is left with this ordeal of sorrow and public shame.

OK, you know what, we're gonna skip past some of this, since basically it reminds us that despite the comedy in Juno, teenage pregnancy is a serious, potentially terrible thing, which (despite our being a product of it), we totally agree with. What we really wanted to talk about was this:

Pregnancy robs a teenager of her girlhood. This stark fact is one reason girls used to be so carefully guarded and protected — in a system that at once limited their horizons and safeguarded them from devastating consequences. The feminist historian Joan Jacobs Brumberg has written that “however prudish and ‘uptight’ the Victorians were, our ancestors had a deep commitment to girls.”

We, too, have a deep commitment to girls, and ours centers not on protecting their chastity, but on supporting their ability to compete with boys, to be free — perhaps for the first time in history — from the restraints that kept women from achieving on the same level. Now we have to ask ourselves this question: Does the full enfranchisement of girls depend on their being sexually liberated? And if it does, can we somehow change or diminish among the very young the trauma of pregnancy, the occasional result of even safe sex?

Now, we don't for a second think that either the Times or Flanagan is recommending a return to Victorian times. (Although that might explain this.) But it's still a provocative question. So, what do you guys think? Is it just a pipe dream to assume that young girls can ever truly be sexually liberated, considering that they will almost certainly bear the brunt of any unintended consequences? Or, to perhaps put it another way, will we ever be able to say with 100% confidence that those unintended consequences have been eradicated?

Have at it in the comments, and remember to play nice!

(And yes, for those of you playing at home, this post ties together three separate threads that have cropped up on the blog in recent days. Gold star for you!)


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eurrapanzy said:

i basically sucked at family law in law school, but i think given the way we approach the family unit and particularly the way in which we place extremely great emphasis on having, then raising a baby as a way to take responsibility for your actions, it will be impossible for young women to be liberated.  even where the sex is safe and a pregnancy isn't the result, we place a lot of emphasis on success being partially defined by making a family.  Either you have to balance family and work to be perfect, or you're someone to be pitied.  particularly because the long term consequences of sex (including stds) are more likely to "punish" women as they try for success, liberation as i think you're defining it is not likely to happen.

January 15, 2008 10:54 AM

ninka said:

well, it will probably never be a perfectly even playing field, but it would be a start for the US if you would stick to sex education that is proven to actually work.

January 15, 2008 1:19 PM

ashke said:

Good sex ed would be a good starting point, I think. None of this fear-mongering crap. Girls need to be taught about protection, and they need to be taught the confidence to insist on it. I was taught the first half, but was seriously lacking in the second. And maybe make it a bit easier for young girls to get birth control - it can be pretty hard when you're 15, and the only resource you're aware of is your family doctor, and the pills are going to either cost you a lot or show up on your family insurance bills.

Once you've got that down, maybe make morning after pills a LOT more available and a lot less demonized, even to teenagers. And work hard on that abortion stigma.

January 15, 2008 3:06 PM

youngandnaive said:

So, I'm a fairly 'sexually liberated' young girl and so far, I am dealing quite well with whatever consequences. Girls have been having sex without getting pregnant for years, and huge numbers are still doing it. It isn't impossible. Sex ed and an understanding of the potential consequences have armed me pretty well.

January 15, 2008 5:31 PM

Margo said:

ninka makes a good point; shouldn't that ideal - of 'complete liberation' - be the focal point & goal, even though we know it's not one that's really achievable? (Of course, the Foucauldians can pipe up to point out that there's no such thing as sexual freedom).

Off topic - the line that stood out to me, funnily enough, was this: "... it is one appetite women and girls must always regard with caution"

I kinda think most female appetites get pretty heavily moderated, considering that talking about consumption (food, drink, shopping & so on) is almost always overlaid with some moral tone.

January 15, 2008 6:13 PM

atomicfern said:

The quick, dirty answer is no.  It will never be fair.  Men will never bear the brunt of responsibility.  The only way to ensure 100% carefree girls would be the horrible act of sterilization.  This may not happen in my lifetime, but I believe there will come a time when women will bank their eggs and get themselves sterilized scientifically.  When or if they decide to have a baby, they get it fertilized, then implanted.  It sounds cold and clinical, but that's about the only way it would work.

January 15, 2008 7:28 PM

Gavin said:

...orrrrr...require all women to be lesbian until they're of (whatever) age. Take the LUG thing to its logical conclusion - no pregnancies, fewer STDs, and who doesn't think it would raise the bar on male competency levels in the sack once the ladies hit the age to sleep with the boys (if they wanted to)?

January 15, 2008 9:54 PM

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Bryan Christian has worked as a writer for Epicurious, GenArt and ID magazine; a web producer for WWD and Condé Nast; and a cameraman for his friends. He's married and lives in Clinton Hill, Brooklyn.

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