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I've dated several women who could reasonably be described as chubby, rubenesque, cherubic, rotund, portly, big-boned. One of my ex-girlfriends even outweighed me by a few pounds. There are lots of polite ways to try and soften the blunt edges, but there's always something discombobulating about seeing someone comparatively slender in the company of a fat person. One of my favorite topics for awkward conversation is to ask someone about the fattest person they've ever slept with.

 



My first kiss was with a woman who was probably closer to obese than fat. She was tall and must have weighed two hundred pounds. We were at a party and I immediately identified her as the one girl there that I would be least interested in making out with. So two hours later I was, of course, making out with her. It was really nice too. She was a fizzy ball of energy and had an air of perpetual momentum around her, as if she were moments away from levitating. She was a hungry kisser, wet and urgent without becoming completely feral.

The next day I didn't even think about calling her again. I liked her a lot but I couldn't conceive of dating someone so heavy. I don't know where that prejudice came from. I marvel at it. I resent it. Being in Denmark over the summer, I noticed a pattern of seeing big and gawky women lumbering around with considerably more attractive men on their arms. There didn't seem to be the same male-driven stigma about needing to validate some in-born sense of masculinity through a girlfriend's waist size.

I read someone's confession today that admitted an unhinged carnal urge to sleep with someone who was objectively unattractive. "he's smart, interesting, funny and a very nice guy. He's not very attractive but oh man, do i ever want to fuck his brains out. I never thought i'd want someone so badly i don't even find physically attractive."

How is this possible? How could anyone want to have sex with someone they're not attracted to? Clearly there's an element of glibness to the "not very attractive," it's like a hedging of bets against other people's expectations. He doesn't conform to the norms of what other people would probably find attractive, but is that the same as being unattractive? Why even bother couching a description of someone who triggers some inner compulsion for closeness with an acknowledgement of other people's expectations?

 



I often wonder how much of what I find attractive in a woman is genuine and how much is just a subconscious recognition of how closely her look assimilates with the subtle iconography of movies, magazines, and commercials. A friend of mine used to date a model and loved describing how proud he was walking into a bar or restaurant with her on his arm. How happy he was walking down the sidewalk, watching all the other men ogle the girl that had chosen him. It reminded me of the terse Patrick Bateman line, "I'm just trying to fit in."

I still trade emails with the girl I dated that weighed more than me. She was married not too long ago, to a chubby man. I look at her pictures on Facebook sometimes. They seem absurdly happy together. Of course I am biased, but she still strikes me as stunning and I don't understand what she could possible be doing with the goober grinning on the other side of the frame. Then I remember her describing how happy he makes her in an email a long time ago. A comparatively unattractive fat guy making a woman so happy she would be willing and eager to share the rest of her life with him. I can almost see it through the tinsel haze.  

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Comments

loobetchka said:

Its the external validation thing.. It's not that you DON'T think the person is unattractive.. YOU DO.. but it's the media that sells everyone on what is the standard for attractiveness.. and the American fear that people are judging you.. measuring your worth.. and the ridiculous idead that somehow your worth is diminshed because the person youre with doesnt fit into the mold that society deems pretty/handsome/thin...

You're right it's an American thing.. it's an external approbation thing..

October 22, 2008 11:45 AM

E-Claire said:

I doubt its an American thing. Its an anyone-who-fears-being-judged-and-is-affected-by-what-people-think   thing

October 22, 2008 1:41 PM

vix_en25 said:

Parisians are just as preoccupied by what other people think as Americans.

October 22, 2008 2:35 PM

fishnetsandlight said:

Eh. Life's too short to worry about what other people think of the person you're with. We're all gonna end up with less hair and more fat eventually.

October 22, 2008 5:55 PM

Musing_Mariah said:

This entry sadden me. I guess because I am the fat girl. Thankfully I have a pretty face, obnoxiously large breasts and good proportions, so people flirt with me and --get this-- even call me. However, I tend to be the girl that guys love to fuck, but not the girl who becomes a girlfriend. Hey, that brings me to a topic I would love see you guys write about: the difference between the girls you love to fuck and the girls you date. I refer to it as the difference between the 2:00am girl and the 2:00pm girl.

October 22, 2008 10:27 PM

Toluca_86 said:

I think the vast majority of women are "the girl that guys love to fuck, but not the girl who becomes a girlfriend" for the vast majority of guys, anyhow.  At least, that would be the experience of just about everyone I know.  Cultural expectations for guys are too low -like I've said on here before, if you want casual sex that's okay, but be open and forthright with me about it, otherwise you're not respecting me as a person.  Maybe if you're a supermodel they'd actually compete to have you, but come on, it's not very common.  (Oh, and for the record, the supermodel I know tends to date comparitively more average looking guys)

October 22, 2008 11:13 PM

Toluca_86 said:

Which brings me to another question, actually -if someone you've started seeing invites you to dinner and introduces you to his friends, but not explicitly as a gf or as someone he's dating, is that a sign he likes you and sees potential, or just that he wants you to feel secure enough to continue sleeping with him?

October 22, 2008 11:15 PM

bizzarissima said:

@Toluca: I think it can be both, meaning seeing potential or making sure the sex continues. I for example, don't like to stay sexually connected to someone who sees just "potential" in me, when I invest emotionally in the person. It seems to me that whenever I was confronted with this situation (whether the guy explicitly stated it or my intuition just unveiled it), some insecurity of mine was visible enough in order to make the man not confident enough in me in order to introduce me as the GF. Men are very sensitive creatures and they need to see you very self-possessed in order to offer their "protection", "love", "security", "stability". If they're not 101%  sure about it, they will always hesitate, either in private context (being tender, sweet, loving to you) or in a social one (like the example you pointed out). My guess...;)

October 23, 2008 6:09 AM

dvaleriey said:

As someone who is always the girlfriend, I have never managed to effectively pull off a one-night-stand.  They would always overstay their welcome and then I would end up engaged again (I have trouble turning down rings in romantic settings)!  I am not a supermodel, nor have I ever modeled in any capacity.  What are you gals doing to get rid of these fellows?  

October 23, 2008 11:22 AM

Thea said:

Sometimes it's fun to fuck people you find repulsive. Not every night but just once in a while so you can be your own most repulsive sex-pig self with no regard for anyone else.

@bizzarissima & Toluca~ Being introduced to the friends early on is so fraught with ambiguity and personally I think it sucks. It can be a sign of emotional laziness: making a gesture of commitment when there isn't necessarily the actual emotional currency to back it. I think it's a way for men to lock in their access. I am thinking in terms of mortgages and credit; what could possibly be more cynical?

I like to date average-looking men. Beautiful men make me suspicious. I guess I am small :(

October 24, 2008 12:41 AM

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