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Dating Confessions: How important are somebody's POLITICS when seeking a partner?.. Plus the Daily Throb!

Posted by zeitgeisty
I could never seriously date a republican. 

I’ve tried a couple of times, but it never worked out. The thing is, all the clichés and stereotypes about those people hold pretty true, and I just can’t abide the abject ignorance. I mean, that’s not to say that I’m this Gung-ho Democrat, in fact I think the party is run by a bunch of morons… Dean, Pelosi, Reid? They couldn’t be worse. Well ok, they could be Cheney, Bush, and Rove…but even still.

I remember this one chick I dated, she was from the mid-west, and had that cornfed healthy looking, pull yourself up by the bootstraps thing going on. Her father was some kind of head so and so in the Republican party. She would always be making disparaging remarks against blacks and Jews, the stuff she’d spew was just this total cartoon expectation of a conservative.

At the same time though, she tried to portray herself as ‘edgy’ with this faux patina of downtown hipster, which was just a totally nauseating combo when coupled with her personal beliefs about religion, and the environment. Still,I think that’s why she was initially attracted to me, I think she thought that I was that typical downtown guy, when in point of fact I’m actually quite the opposite. I’m an independent thinker, I loathe Williamsburg and that whole vibe. Basically, I’m a militant realist and seeker of truth… some might call it ‘official pain in the ass’, but I don’t see it that way.

Needless to say, that relationship didn’t last long…

It’s interesting to think about. How important a factor are someone’s politics, when seeking a partner? Do they need to be on the ‘same side’ so to speak? Some say no… Case in point James Carville and Mary Matalin, two people that couldn’t be further away from each other as far as politics are concerned, and  yet they’ve been holding it together for more than fifteen years of marriage. Seriously, I have no idea how they do it. I once broke up with someone because they hated Bob Dylan – of course she was also an elitist twat, but the Bob Dylan thing pushed her over the edge into dumpsville.

My current girlfriend is similar to me in that she has no true fixed allegiance to either party. We also both were Hillary supporters, and have been greatly disappointed by how this whole election year has turned out. Still it is what it is, and the die is pretty much cast… half the country is us, and half is them and nere’ the twain shall meet. That’s the question I think, as far as relationships go, can ‘us’ get along with ‘them’?

In this new world order, ‘the other’ no longer automatically brings with it the sole connotation of race or religion. In this new paradigm, ‘the other’ is all about politics. Where do you stand on religion, choice, medical research, the environment, etc… This supersedes all.

Yeah.. I couldn’t date a republican. 

Funny though, in today’s ‘hipster’ circles, I could totally see a trend spring up where it would be totally ‘ironic’  - in a supposedly cool way - to date someone outside of their political affiliation. Kind of like wearing an Air Supply T-shirt.

 

It’s thoughts like these that make me wanna go and take a dump.   

 



 

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Comments

vix_en25 said:

In high school I ended a friendship over politics, and a couple of years ago I kicked an ex boyfriend out of my house for saying that 'Israelis kill babies' followed by a bunch of other ridiculous comments. needless to say I never spoke to him again. When we dated he made all these comments about how jews have gaudy vulgar taste (he was a 'sophisicated' French artist with bland unimaginative taste). I guess he felt he could say those things because he was dating a left-wing athiest israeli. In fact he once said It's amazing how disgusgting people can turn out to be once they feel comfortable enough to open up. I could never date a republican or an anti semitic artist (posing as a liberal).

September 12, 2008 5:38 PM

recycledbrooklyn said:

A republican?  No way.  I have a hard enough time with most democrats.  They're a bit too self-congratulatory and that's hard to fathom considering they really haven't accomplished anything even resembling progressive in at least a generation.  

I did go out on a Hooksexup date with a Republican a couple years ago.  She was beautiful, and well educated, a doctor affiliated with a big hospital.  My first clue that it was a bad match was when she brought up the subject of racial profiling which was big in the news at the time.  She thought it was perfectly reasonable... no worries to her... and she peppered her thesis with many racially based "observations."  I will admit that when she first said she was Republican I did my best to put it aside, simply because she was incredibly good looking... I made it through the first date and even considered going out with her again.  The next conversation though was on the phone and that was pretty much the end of that.

And Vixen... my experience living in the Park Slope area for the last 16 years has taught me that many people who call themselves liberals are actually posing.

September 12, 2008 6:42 PM

zeitgeisty said:

Vix.. I've been in many situations in my life as you describe...  

Recycled - I agree with you completely about the self-congratulatory aspect of dems.. particular the obamites...

September 12, 2008 10:19 PM

aghmprettyok said:

I dated a republican for years and he made me listen to conservative talk radio!!  But you know-it still worked.  

Politics is a really dumb thing to decide a relationship on-If you can just respect each others opinions and just decide to care for the other person it works. The problem is when they begin to push their beliefs onto you.  I dated a "libreal democrat" and he ended up a closet pro-lifer.  He kept trying to tell me that he was right in his beliefs and I was wrong.  We disagreed so much about it it completely tore apart the relationship.

September 13, 2008 12:13 AM

aghmprettyok said:

Also: Ending a friendship or relationship should be because they treated you badly not just because of politics or because of stupid jokes. Thats being a bad friend for one, and also petty.

I've experienced discrimination before and the real thing hurts.  In jest though, anything should go.  If not people will never fully open up to you.  The ability to accept someone for who they are, no matter what, is the deepest trust you can have.  

September 13, 2008 12:24 AM

amboabe said:

I bet you could whack it to a republican. I'll be watching for some Fox News reporters in the daily throb in the next couple of weeks.

September 13, 2008 2:57 AM

recycledbrooklyn said:

aghm--I think it really depends on how strongly you believe what you do, and why you vote one way or another.  It's one thing if it's because one of you is a fiscal conservative and the other liberal, and quite another if the beliefs, or differences of belief are founded on other large parts of the Republican platform which they're pretty clear about being based on "moral issues."  

Could I date a moderate Republican?  Perhaps, but it's doubtful.  Could I date a Bush supporter?  Not a chance!  To support this administration and what they stand for and what they're doing shows a complete lack of either intelligence, common sense, scruples, compassion, decency, or all of the above.  It shows an utter disregard for the people we share this planet with, and the planet itself.  

I could even break it down to single issues.  Do you support this war?  If so, we will not get along.  

Zeitgeisty--I broke camp with Hillary Clinton in 2006 when she and Chuck Schumer expedited the delivery of cluster bombs to Israel after it was proven that the IDF was using them extensively on civilian targets in Lebanon.  Don't get me wrong.  I certainly don't support Hezbollah, who I believe are bloodthirsty powermongers also... but it comes down to this for me, and call me a simpleton.  There are two types of people in the world.  Those that kill children, and those that don't.  So I have a hard time with lots of Democrats also.

And yes, there are many Obama-ites that make me ill.  You end up in a lot of "liberal" households when you're raising children in "liberal" Park Slope.  All these parents run around beating their chests shouting about how they love diversity but when you take your kids to their houses for a birthday party, it looks like an early George Lucas film.  There is a conspicuous absence of diversity.  Hmmmmmm.

September 13, 2008 7:39 AM

zeitgeisty said:

aghm.. I agree with recycle.. It depends on how political you are I suppose... If you could listen to cond=servative talk radio without your head exploding, then you're really not too involved... Either that or your enjoy aggravation

Recycled.. so true about those park slope wussies you describe...

Amobabe... Who I whack off to has NOTHING to do with politics!!!

September 13, 2008 10:37 AM

vix_en25 said:

ending the friendship in high school may have been excessive but I took myself and politics very seriously back then... I have grown since. as for my friendship with my ex... I had no problem with the joking (since I crack jew jokes myself), it was the total lack of respect and the way he looked at me as if I was a murderer that made me kick him out of my house. suddenly all those jokes took on a different meaning.

September 13, 2008 11:26 AM

vix_en25 said:

that last comment I posted was for aghmprettyok.

September 13, 2008 11:26 AM

aghmprettyok said:

I enjoy aggravation. And arguing.  

Why else would I visit this blog so often?

September 13, 2008 10:21 PM

xcalibur86 said:

Pretty simple: I'm voting for Obama. If somebody votes for McCain, so be it, although I'll do my endeavorest to change their mind.

September 13, 2008 10:45 PM

shakti_vos said:

i am currently w/ someone who refers to himself as a "South Park" republican. ( A republican w/out all the religious ideology.)  he's an atheist Russian Jew (he moved to this country when he was 8).  i am not a republican.  we don't talk politics very often, if we do, it's always cut short - we have other things to say.   we were friends before we dated, he would complain about not getting dates, and i would say "you're such a great guy, why are you having so much trouble?" and he'd say "you know why" and i would think for a long time and he'd remind me "i'm a conservative, every time i'm out w/someone and things are going okay, she'll bring up politics and i'll tell her what i think and she doesn't want to hang out w/me anymore".  

the fact is, there's more to this guy than his political beliefs.  what it comes down to is i don't want to vote for him, i just want to have sex with him.  

September 15, 2008 7:09 AM

zeitgeisty said:

Well then he's not a 'conservative'... he may be conservative on economic issues, etc.. but to be a conservative means you are ani-choice, pro religion, pro gun, etc... this is going by their OWN definition...

September 15, 2008 1:46 PM

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