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Zeitgeisty just received a comment over on his blog post about real women and, not wanting to blog jack, I thought I'd post something I wrote a couple weeks ago, kinda in response to Toluca, but just my general thoughts on the subject...



A while back on my old blog, some bloke said that he preferred a woman with meat on her bones. All the chubby chicks jumped all over him with "we love you"s and "you are such a sweet guy" blah blah blah, but when a guy expresses a preference for skinny or, God forbid, fake, all the bigger chicks go "boooo, you're a body fascist" and "get thee out of our supportive community" etc etc

Well, dear girls, ya can't have it both ways.

If it's not ok to dictate a skinny aesthetic, then it's not ok to dictate a plump one either is it?

(I speak from the relative comfort of medium chick land. I could be a thin chick if I didn't gorge myself with chocolate on a daily basis and, for several weeks a year when at my mums house in England, didn't eat dessert about 3 times a day.)

I know several skinny women who eat eat eat like grown men, yet skinny they remain. I hate them of course, even the ones that are my close friends, but they are just as "real" as I am.

If one is going to bandy about words like "should" or "real", then the argument could probably be substantiated for fairly slim and fairly muscular with enough body fat to procreate, since cavewoman was a reasonably active sort, but food was not in abundance. (Too little body fat can be a factor in infertility)

But, biological imperative notwithstanding, we are all products of our culture and even the culture fluctuates wildly. Americas "should be" is vastly different from, say Africas and even America in the 20's had a very different notion of beauty from America today.

Some preferences can be psychoanalysed up the wazoo, but at the end of the day Oedipus was just as entitled to his preferences as anyone else. But they are preferences, not "shoulds".

Exceptions: It is a little known fact that Moses actually brought down 11 commandments from Mount Zion. The 11th one was that man shalt have a big pecker. Moses destroyed it in a fit of pique because his was a little one. So, all those other shoulds *should* be avoided. Except the 11th commandment.
After all, ya can't argue with the heavenly Father now can you?

I am on a Gray's Anatomy kick since I am about to watch the new season online. Regular readers of my old blog will know that I am not a fan of the older man, but I'd make an exception for this guy. James Pickens Jr.

 

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Comments

recycledbrooklyn said:

I'm very happy because God created me in his image and they don't call him the Big Guy for nuthin'!!!

September 26, 2008 9:29 PM

recycledbrooklyn said:

In regard to size, I am generally attracted to women of a more medium build.  Attraction is a funny thing though and for me it's more about comportment than build.  How a woman holds herself and moves, whether skinny or not so... Some women have idiosyncrasies that drive me nuts.  

September 26, 2008 11:07 PM

acamil said:

fat. you know you are eating too much, and not moving around enough. so take control of your intake, go for a walk, or have crazy sex three times a day, but don't tell me you are ok, size 10 is not ok.

ehg. u look like size 4 in your pix!

u hot!

September 26, 2008 11:14 PM

leilawylie said:

I think shorter, voluptuous girls look amazing. I wish I had a classic figure. Then again, people always want what they can't have. But most of the time I feel like a weird giant lady standing next to guys, even though I'm less than six feet tall. I have a thin, awkward body. I've experienced a lot of guys that are turned off by my body type. It's not always fun to be skinny.

September 27, 2008 1:31 AM

spjv840 said:

acamil: "size 10 is not ok"?

Are you kidding me? I don't know if you are being sarcastic or replying to a comment that was moderated..but the actual average size of an American woman is a size 14. And of course we can't forget that Marilyn Monroe was between a size 12 and 16 and we can't say that she "wasn't ok".

September 27, 2008 9:23 AM

acamil said:

spjv: "but the actual average size of an American woman is a size 14."  

that means that for every size 6 on either coast there is size 22 in between them coasts. that is sooo not hot!

MM size 12  5 decades ago is size 6 now. did you notice that some people who were wearing size 6 10 years ago now are wearing size zero. numbers are the same but they somehow got bigger to accommodate the feelings of average American woman. just saying

September 27, 2008 10:20 AM

Toluca_86 said:

Well, Marilyn Monroe just had big hips (although actually, sizes have been scaled up over the years, so today she'd probably be like an 8 or 10).  MM had a teeny-tiny waist though.  

But yeah, I agree even in today's sizing there's nothing wrong with a 10.  (I would know because, I'm a 8-10 at almost 6ft, and plenty of people think I'm too skinny, so a shorter 10 could look more balanced).

Anyway, yeah I mean I study social science, and preferences for both males and females have changed throughout history and from one culture to another (like in Brazil, for most of the past century the culture has preferred big hips and small boobs)  I just find it interesting that men are so much more likely to try and justify their preferences (whatever they may be) as being some "biological imperative" or something than are women, at least in my experience.  And as someone who almost majored in biology and studied evolution and animal behavior and has read through various "evo psych" studies, I have a lot more opinions about that as well...

But, enough with the intellectualism...  Whatever size, I'd love to look as good as you do at 40.

September 27, 2008 10:26 AM

acamil said:

T: it is all about proportions.

September 27, 2008 12:05 PM

Toluca_86 said:

But the point, I think acamil, is that different people have preferences for different proportions, and that the most common preference has varied pretty widely from culture to culture

September 27, 2008 2:03 PM

dvaleriey said:

Toluca:  You've been calling yourself a skinny girl while I have been assuming I was a big boobs and booty gal, but upon reading your statistics I realize WE'RE THE SAME SIZE!  

This weekend, let's trade body images.  I'll be skinny Minny and you can be flashing your sweet T&A all around town!

September 27, 2008 2:28 PM

acamil said:

of course they do! and there is nothing wrong with size 16 either (especially if everybody else is the same size).

September 27, 2008 2:30 PM

Toluca_86 said:

"This weekend, let's trade body images."

I'm afraid there's more too it than that, unless you are truly body dysmorphic.  Because there is not a person I've met who does not consider me skinny.  Sizing can have a lot to do with hip bone and shoulder width measurements though I've noticed... at least for me it does.  To get pants that fit me around the hips, they're baggy almost everywhere else...  So you're almost 6ft?  I'm at the line between "normal" and "underweight" for my height on the BMI.

September 27, 2008 2:43 PM

dvaleriey said:

Toluca:  We're twins!  I'm close to 6ft and I've always been underweight according to the pantyhose chart, but my healthy behind requires ample fabric while the waist needs considerably less.  1970s corduroy hiphuggers are the only option.  Steeped in my thirties, the pointy edges have rounded a bit to symbolically match my harsh opinions softening.  

For years I had a man "type" which was very very tall and slightly brutish playboy musicians and trust-fund misanthropes.  As my curves filled in, I found a lean, classically handsome hardworking gent to wed and provide me the pleasure of being a "kept woman".  

You sound pretty!  Play up your skinny frame with skin-tight looks that enhance your helplessness if you yearn for rugged caretakers or dress boyishly to assert your androgyny and attract like-minded progressive men.  The world is yours!  

September 27, 2008 3:44 PM

Toluca_86 said:

I don't know how true it is, but your last paragraph made me laugh.

I'm afraid I'd prefer to avoid 70s corduroy hiphuggers though...

September 27, 2008 6:56 PM

thea said:

You girls are so funny. Your little locker-room body bonding. I have a gymnast/dancer body so I feel preferred by everyone except modelizers and boob guys. I think the jeans that are saggy to make room for jutting hip bones are really beautiful and exquisite, probably because that's one thing mine will never do no matter how skinny I am.

September 30, 2008 8:45 PM

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