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Date Machine: Is there an expiration date on PASSION?.. plus throbbage.

Posted by zeitgeisty
I was having a conversation with my father the other day about women, relationships, and the general vagaries of human existence.

He’s 71 now, retired and lives ‘the life of the mind’ writing, reflecting, and pontificating…Anyway, when it comes to relationships taking advice from my father is a bit like taking advice from Kafka, or maybe Edgar Allen Poe. In other words, he lays out a grim landscape…bleak, dark and generally joyless. Unfortunately in my case the apple really doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Lately I’ve been getting complaints from my girlfriend about my intractable nature. My complete unwillingness to engage in any activity she enjoys. I keep telling her I just don’t have it in me to go visit another museum, or drop another 20 bucks at another horrible movie. Her rejoinder is usually something like…

‘I’m not even talking about museums… how about dinner??  Going out for a drink??.. All you ever do when you come home from work is sit in front of the TV and watch MSNBC!!’

‘In case you hadn’t noticed, this is an important time in our history… This election is the most significant in our lifetime!!’

Well the election is over… shit. What’s my excuse now?

My father says you need to fall in love and get married young, or else it’ll never work. He postulates that once you get past a certain age you become so disillusioned that true romantic love is no longer possible. This thought haunts me, and to tell the truth I’m scared to death that he may be right. Not that I believe it’s not possible to love someone – I do -  it’s just all that whimsical, unfettered, unmitigated, passionate abandon… does it have an expiration date? 

I dunno, maybe it doesn’t really matter anyway. I mean, isn’t all of that akin to religion, or any other similar types of man-made fairy tale? Isn’t it better in the end to look at life starkly with an unbending loyalty to the truth? Perhaps, but it sure is a lot less fun…

Of course even in my youth I’ve never experienced that coltish, peppy, bubbly effervescent wave of amore that so many people cling to like deranged rhesus monkeys. My memory banks are simply filled with old anxieties, disappointments, broken dreams and bitterness. The cells ooze battery acid and leak into my current state of mind coloring my thoughts in gloomy hues.

Well, I’m not a kid anymore, and unless I sustain some brain injury which effectively wipes out everything I’ve experienced in my life, I’m stuck in this head.  

If only I didn’t feel this damned inertia. I keep telling the girl that I warned her about me, but she doesn’t wanna hear it. I suppose this is what’s known as an impasse.  

Ahh… the effort it all takes.. I guess I better start switching off the tube and doing actual shit.

Obama won, I suppose anything’s possible – the audacity of hope and such...

 

 

 

winona...

 

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Comments

bizzarissima said:

Sometimes I have the impression women are genetically programed to start demanding more passion and romantic gestures once a certain level of domesticity sets in. And somehow, demanding it directly never seems to bring the desired results. A pity, I guess. Keeping passion alive might be possible, but you need to play some innocent tricks constantly, even if that sounds totally annoying. From what you write, I'm given the feeling it is more your girl making the "more passion/attention complaining" than you, who seem comfortable and secure enough in order to just watch the TV around her sweet hot presence.

Consequently, she might wanna try playing some tricks with you, because eventually, it is her wanting something to change, to increase her own pleasure next to you. Best would be to visit those museums and have those dinners with friends or strangers she finds interesting and leave you out of the picture for a little while. Following such sophisticated logistics, it shouldn't take you too long to realize what a cutie pie she is and start some sort of "inside-the-relationship-chasing". ;)

I find it most difficult in any romance to handle the closeness/distance dynamics. Closeness gives security, distance creates attraction. Some women/men are born with the skills to perfectly offer both things on the menu, others have to learn it...

But this is just an opinion, so yeah...

November 6, 2008 2:17 PM

zeitgeisty said:

I constantly tell her to go do those things with her friends.. I'm definitely a guy who is comfortable with routine. It's another trait I picked up from my father... I enjoy doing what I like, and I encourage her to go do whatever she enjoys doing as well.. She of course says that she wants to do those things with me, and if I don't make any effort whatsoever, what's the point of being in a relationship at all...  eh... it's all so tiresome.

November 6, 2008 2:36 PM

bizzarissima said:

Ok, interesting. So she insists doing those things together with you...Your girl could be very much in love with you and craving for more affection, since honestly, demanding "doing things together" is just a rational excuse masking perhaps more delicate heart demands, who knows, I don't want to speculate too much.

But one thing is sure: complaining more won't bring any good results. She informed you already about her level of satisfaction, so she stood by herself, you know it, now she has to get pleasure from other sources and things will definitely become more productive, in whatever sense :)

November 6, 2008 3:11 PM

PO said:

Vintage Wynona. Yes please.

November 6, 2008 3:51 PM

violet said:

Sadly, I have no advice for you about your girlfriend. What I can tell you all about is monkeys. You may want to reconsider your characterization of Rhesus macaques. The females mate with multiple males during any given fertile period and the groups are female-dominated. So, I don't think it's a good comparison to young love. They're not possessive, not clingy, certainly not monogamous, and they don't even know who their baby daddy is. In fact, they mate with many males specifically in order to obscure the paternity of their children so that they'll have protection/help from more group members.

OK, I'm done being a nerdy primatology student now.

November 6, 2008 6:48 PM

zeitgeisty said:

yeah.. whatever you say Diane Fossey...

www.citesnepal.org/.../hugging_monkeys.jpg

November 6, 2008 7:05 PM

violet said:

OK, well maybe they are clinging in that picture. But normally... cold ass bitches.

November 6, 2008 7:17 PM

dvaleriey said:

As the queen of engagements, I am familiar with your plight.  My tactic has been:  the chase, enchantment, burgeoning love, the huge diamond, a momentary cozy security, and then a wild bolt the first time the long underwear and remote become routine.  Luckily, age is softening my expectations.  I am still cute, but less kinetically extraordinary.  I am still enthusiastic, but less explosively alive.  Normalcy has tapped me on the shoulder, and instead of running from it, I have tried flirting with the idea.  My fiance has pressed a wedding date and while I haven't officially acknowledged it, a vintage gown has smuggled itself into my closet.  Each night we sit before MSNBC and I talk back to Chris Mathews like a cantankerous old friend.  I "get you" but hope you can put aside your misanthrope for love. A drink with friends, a trip to the museum, and a crap movie may seem insufferable, but imagine your most isolated nights as these words are screamed at you:  "YOU'RE WATCHING HARDBALL!"  

November 6, 2008 8:25 PM

anathema_teatime said:

What if you told her you'd rather stay home and have filthy perverted sex than go to a museum? I often want to go out and do cultural or social things with my sweetheart, but we always just seem to end up fucking instead. I don't feel cheated. Just a thought.

November 6, 2008 9:17 PM

fishnetsandlight said:

Ummm... I hope you're exaggerating for the sake of the blog entry. You kinda have to do things with your significant other. Outside of the house. Sometimes. You have to eat food at some point, right? Just do it at a restaurant with your girlfriend every now and again.

I mean, you can be joyless by yourself. (Or with a similarly joyless person, I suppose.)

November 6, 2008 9:48 PM

airheadgenius said:

Haven't you mentioned a couple times that you are not sure what she sees in you? Maybe you're determined to be a self fulfilling prophecy?

An arm chair psychologist could interpret this three ways: either 1) you have low self esteem and so cannot bring yourself to invest in the relationship because ultimately she might leave you anyway. 2) you enjoy being miserable and so wallow at home whilst she's out with her friends and will get to wallow even more when she's moved on. 3) you are a lazy selfish good fa nothing lanky waste of space ;)

Yep, one of those.

November 6, 2008 10:04 PM

E-Claire said:

So... no sympathy from the female bloggers, Z!

I feel you on this one, the complete lack of motivation to do anything, even when it comes to loved ones, making money, and generally 'living'. It's unhealthy though, for you and your relationships. Maybe if the girlfriend knew how you were operating on this one, she might be into finding something that really excites you as a way to spend time together. The dirty dirty sex as mentioned earlier. If she wants to go out... dirty dirty sex in public.

It's definitely a matter of motivation, and motivation tends to happen when you're excited by the pay off. Why aren't you excited about the pay off of making your girlfriend happy? Just general thoughts I guess...

November 6, 2008 11:01 PM

tiptree said:

I've said "no" a lot in my life (when sensing my girlfriend of the moment would put up with it), and I'm interested in what it'd be like to say "yes" more often.  Too bad that Jim Carrey holiday movie is going to make it feel too damn corney to have that as a goal.  

How was your election night, Z?

For minutes at a time, I was a less cynical person.

November 6, 2008 11:05 PM

zeitgeisty said:

we go out on the weekends... but she complains that we only go to places I wanna go to, such as vinyl shopping, cafes, etc...

ahg - I'd definitely say nay to #s 1 and 2.. I suppose the closest would be #3... however I prefer to see it as I've earned the right to be happy and do what I enjoy doing, without having to be responsible for anyone else's entertainment...

November 6, 2008 11:09 PM

zeitgeisty said:

dval - I get where you're coming from, but lately just hanging around watching hardball feels pretty good..

Anethma - I'd be interested in your definition of 'dirty sex' as opposed to the regular kind...

e-claire - I guess I'm more interested in what would make ME happy for once in my life...

hey Tip - yeah, the election was a joyous experience for me.. I'm still feeling pretty high about it, but also a bit out of it.. kind of like the feeling when you get a biopsy and find out it's benign... I spent the night flipping through MSNBC, CNN and FOX... loved to see those bastards faces drop!

November 7, 2008 12:27 AM

dvaleriey said:

Mr. Z:  My fiance agrees with you!  He admitted half the things he does with me are in anticipation of returning to the couch.  

His words:  "I would never, of my own accord, attend a showing of 'Beverly Hills Chihuahua' but knowing you have a need to fawn over little dogs with huge eyes, I go, I enjoy your squealing, we come home, and then it's back on the couch...just you, me, and Lou Dobbs."  

I reminded him how much I hate Lou Dobbs and he said, "Right, but your angry Lou Dobbs impressions are the most relaxing part of my day."  I realize he is right.  I love smashing my face to make a fake double chin and screaming out weird conspiracy theories in a loud grandpa voice.  I wouldn't have imagined this to be an attractive quality.  You men are just odd.  

November 7, 2008 1:02 PM

zeitgeisty said:

Sounds hot!

Personally I can't stand Lou Dobbs.. additionally those I hate.. MIKA BRZEZINSKI from Morning Joe on MSNBC.. and DAVID GREGORY... And that Campbell Brown over at CNN...

The only ones I actually like are Chris matthews, olbermann and maddow...

November 7, 2008 3:16 PM

zeitgeisty said:

I like David Gergen too...

November 7, 2008 3:19 PM

dvaleriey said:

Since we're dirty talkin', Richard Wolfe and Chuck Todd seem like the sort of nice guys I should have paid more attention to in college.  Howard Fineman is sweet and absent-minded about his Just For Men Formula.  He has more important things to worry about than hair dye, like the economy.  I remain skeptical of vampire-fanged Chris Cilliza (sp?).  And Rachel Maddow is my bestest girlfriend, even though she will try to hit on me when drunk.  Monkey-mouth Gregory is an irritant, and I have mixed feelings about Keith Olberman.  I am equally repelled and attracted to his egomania.  My most hated:  Bill Falafel-Loofah O'Reily (and his horse-toothed body-language expert).  Watch how his eyes glitter at the most innocuous mention of anything titillating.   I read the transcripts of his sex calls and they were even worse than Bill Clinton's shenanigans in the Starr Report.  

November 7, 2008 4:18 PM

profrobert said:

One of my older relatives says that the most important thing to a successful long-term relationship is to have common interests, because at the end of the day, that's all you're going to have.  To that, I'd add that you need shared goals and values -- if you want different things in life or have conflicting beliefs, it's not going to work.  

I do agree that young love is different from older love, but I have to come out in favor of older love.  That bubbly feeling in your tummy at the start of a new, hot relationship isn't love; it's anxiety (about her, about you, about life, etc.).  Older love, although physical attraction and chemistry is a part of it, is about security -- the delight of having someone to come home to, or who comes home to you; the feeling that you have someone who is on your side, who has your back, and the responsibility of being the same for her.  I'm going to borrow AHG's armchair and suggest that, from what you're saying, it sounds like you want to be independent and have a girlfriend as a part of that independent existence.  Nothing wrong with that (been there, did that for years), but then don't kid yourself that you want a partnership.  You're still a sole proprietor who wants to set his own shop hours.  Don't be shocked, then, if your girlfriend takes her business elsewhere.

November 10, 2008 8:03 AM

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