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Posted by airheadgenius

 

I started writing on this subject a few weeks ago, but hadn't had occasion to post it, until Amboabe recently broached the subject.

Back when I was a teenager, right through into my early twenties, erections were very easy to come by. All you had to do was smile at a boy the right way and watch the result.

I remember the days when we would slow dance at the local disco (yeah, I know you are too young to remember such things. Bite me) One particular incidence sticks in my mind – a boyfriend from back when I was about 20 couldn't make it through a slow song without getting a massive hard on. As the song would come to a close, he'd say "don't you dare step away from me" – what with those peg topped pants so popular in the 80's and his rather ample appendage, it was like erecting a tent.

All through my 20s and most of my 30s, erectile dysfunction was something that I read about as headlines in magazine advertisements or saw on TV commercials, but not something I'd ever encountered in the flesh.

There was one exception to this rule, as there invariably is, a friend with benefits from my home town. He was a serious drug user though and it was a given that he couldn't rise to the occasion. He was an incredibly passionate lover and a cunning linguist and he never seemed to be remotely bothered that he didn't get it up. Oooo – maybe he was a lesbian trapped in a man's body. Just a thought.
 
I've never dated older men (contrary to the ''norm'' suggested by fishnets I've never remotely been attracted to them) so prior to the demise of my relationship with my kid's dad, the oldest man I'd ever had sex with was 34.

Young penii always did what was culturally expected of them – they stood proud, hard and tall (well some were a little more diminutive, but hard nonetheless)

After the baby daddy and I broke up, I spent a couple years without even attempting to meet anyone – breastfeeding a newborn, raising a 2 year old and working full time kind of takes the edge off ones desire to date. But when I got back in the game, my new lover was 36.

This man could get a hard on. Instantly. And he could maintain it for ages, but what he couldn't do was orgasm. He managed to come with me only once although we had sex many many times and he claimed to have never orgasmed in his previous relationship. He said that he hadn't been able to come with any regularity for years, regardless of partner. Interestingly, to me at least, he claimed to never have masturbated. Which makes him a mysterious beast, but I've no idea if it impacted on his inability to orgasm.
 
It seems, like "high risk childbirth" kicking in at 35, this age is the one where the rot sets in for men. Although that turning point for having kids is grossly over stated and in fact many women happily produce without drama in their late 30s and early 40s, the 35 watershed for erectile dysfunction really does appear to be grounded in reality.
 
Every woman I know sleeping with a 35+ has the same lament - from the hot to the homely. Maybe it's always, maybe very infrequently, but at some point the male member fails to rear it's head.
 
Whilst my (Thank you God even though I am an atheist) experience with the phenomenon is very limited, it has been suggested that the root cause is stress. And it makes sense that a man approaching middle age probably has bigger and fancier stresses than a manboy of 25, but I wonder if it runs deeper even than that.
 
I wonder if in fact it's a control thing. Girls learn from the beginning of their sexual experience that making a boy cum is like falling off a log. It really couldn't be any easier. Making a girl orgasm - especially a young not-so-sure-of-herself one - can take time and effort. Maybe men get tired of being the ones who are culturally expected to be easy. Maybe the 35+ man wants a little bit more consideration and so, consciously or not, he makes his female work that little bit harder.
 
What beats me though is the historical fact that a large percentage of men go for younger women. Once they reach the mid life crisis point, the age gap widens considerably. This is also the time where they are statistically most likely to have problems getting it up. Perhaps they think that some young hottie will increase their chances, but it seems that hotness doesn't have all that much to do with it.
 
No wonder some bright spark invented Viagra.

I know that if I'd met erectile dysfunction in my 20's, I would have taken it personally. These days, I'd rather not encounter it and am unfazed and supportive when I do, but it doesn't upset my ego. ''Honey, it's not me, it's you''.

 

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dvaleriey said:

Contrary to form, I would think that the limp would avoid nubile young girls because their dysfunction would be forever solidified.  With older gals they can appease themselves, "Ah ha! I just wasn't turned on enough."  And age-appropriate fillies might even bake them cookies after the big flop.  

"Where the rot sets in" is the funniest and most brutal description alluding to a stress-induced death drive that is the salt that shrivels the slug.  

October 28, 2008 7:17 PM

zeitgeisty said:

i dunno.. i actually experienced the stress induced death drive, more so in my youth... only because i was way more nervous about sex...

i think men are more sensitive than women think... there are a million reasons why a man could go limp, most having nothing to with his age... fear of disease, being unattracted, being tired, drunk, stressed... it's  wonder how anyone can get hard in this day and age!!!...

all that said, i do wonder what my sex drive will be in my 40s and 50s... it gives one pause.

October 28, 2008 7:45 PM

breathing_in said:

I have to admit that it did happen to me one time where I had the desire but just not the ability.  Of course, that time I chalked up to having pleasured myself 3 times already so I was pretty out of it by the time evening hit.  Whatta ya gonna do?  39 was a tough age.  I mean, with that cool appendage just hanging there, that thing that can please women, shock them, stand at attention, but also does dastardly things like create war and destruction, guns and bombs, and occasionally pees on the neighbor’s tree (sorry ‘bout that Mr. Johnson!), it’s a shock men show up to work at all with all the flogging that’s deserved.

I’ve seen the ads, read the articles, and felt sorry for the men who had willing participants in front of them but not in their pants (and maybe I fantasized about their wives now and again, too, searching for an active partner) but thank God there’s a pill I can take.  Can you imagine?  Diet?  Nope.  Exercise?  Nope.  You don’t even have to go to therapy.  Just take a pill and everything’s working again.  Sounds easy and luxurious to me.  The octogenarian’s equivalent of acid, I suppose.  What a world we live in where if you like each other you can keep fucking for as long as your heart will let you.  I wonder if they’ll come up with a blue pill that makes you like each other.

I still don’t know what’s worse, though, not being able to get it up, or having to walk around in public when it happens unexpectedly.  (And by unexpectedly, I mean, I was thinking about sex for about an hour at the office and when I stood up I said to myself, “now where did that come from?!”)  

Any way you look at it, it’s tough being a guy.

October 28, 2008 7:58 PM

fishnetsandlight said:

I didn't say it was the norm! ("...most people do not end up dating someone significantly older than themselves.")

In any case, ED medications have probably changed the game. And I find premature ejaculation much more distressing! If a man couldn't get it up, I imagine I would be happy enough to do something less phallocentric. But when you start, and it's over in 30 seconds, that's just upsetting.

October 28, 2008 7:59 PM

amboabe said:

I imagine erections will become fairly sparse for me once I turn 50. I can't imagine being any less horny, though, so I expect a sudden outburst of kink to accompany my liverspots and mole hairs.

October 28, 2008 8:21 PM

Toluca_86 said:

My experiences (with young guys, even) is not that they require no time or effort to get off.  Maybe that's because most young guys these days aren't happy with just fucking, and expect to do a variety of things beforehand that require more effort?  Whenever my mom talks about guys not liking foreplay, I have difficulty imagining it, and assume it's a generational thing.

October 28, 2008 10:02 PM

Thea said:

The downside to the little blue pill when you're old is that you have to be gentle with your ancient weary heart. But what do I know, maybe old people like having lazy rocking chair sex.

October 28, 2008 10:47 PM

shakti_vos said:

i don't think i've ever been with a guy who had trouble getting it up.  i have had the "unable to orgasm" phenomenon happen with someone more than once.  he was (probably still is) on MAOI inhibitors.  i wondered if that had anything to do with it.  

October 28, 2008 11:48 PM

shakti_vos said:

oh, i just remembered (thanks for reminding me), there was a guy, about 6 years younger than me.  we went out a few times, and attempted to have sex the last  2 times we were together.  wow.  what a drag.  i think i blocked the whole thing out because it was just too unbelievable to me that he couldn't get it up. AND he was completely useless otherwise.  

October 29, 2008 8:31 AM

flintsteel said:

I will be 56 in February. My only ED problems occurred in my late thirties when I was addicted to heroin (among other things). I would nod out instead of getting it up, more often I would be hard but couldn't come easily (liquor dick). It has been 16+ years since I had a drink or a drug and I still get more hard-ons than I can use and they last as long as they need to. I keep waiting for a decrease in desire to uncloud my mind but it hasn't happened yet........

Keeping your vascular system in shape seems to be helpful, dunno about the psychology.......my orgasm is my responsibility AND I am happy to help with yours (the royal you).

I have tried Viagra recreationally and found that it works but has unpleasant side effects-flushing, vision issues and next day hang over; not really worthwhile.

The longer we do things the better we get at them.......

October 29, 2008 9:48 AM

airheadgenius said:

dval - man, I am more likely to sprout wings and fly out the window than bake a flaccid man cookies. Yak. Since viagra, the older man gets to prod the young chicks until his heart gives out. Prior to viagra, maybe they are more easily appeased with gifts. My strategy would be to stick with the under 35 crowd.

zeit - maybe your late loss of virginity made you unduly anxious about the subject? Although you do seem to be an anxious sort in general.

breathing in - 3 beat offs before a date??? That's a big ol skool isn't it? And was "mr Johnson" deliberate or a Freudian slip?

October 30, 2008 6:34 PM

airheadgenius said:

fishnets - arrghghghgh!! Can't believe I entirely misquoted you. Sorry bout that. Bound to be Freudian, but can't imagine what the specific cause was. And ewwww, premature ejaculation is not cute at all! Thank gawd it reduces with the man's age.

amboabe - I trust the liver spots at 50 was a joke. You are a mean mean oldie hater.

Toluca - In my 20 something year experience of sex, there's always been foreplay and it's always been easy to get men off. Until the dreaded 35! And why are you talking to your mother about foreplay??

Thea - I imagine more men are dying on the job, as it were.

shakti - yep, those ol MAOI's have a lot to answer for. Be miserable and orgasmic says I! And no stiffy and no discernable other talents is definitely not a good look.

flintsteel - "the longer we do things the better we get at them". Oh, if only that were true of everyone!!!

October 30, 2008 6:43 PM

Toluca_86 said:

My mother is an interesting conglomeration of being kind of conservative and judgmental in some areas and then loving to share these really personal random things in an effort to instruct/warn her children about the world.

I'm to a point where hearing personal details about my mom doesn't bother me that much -we're all human, you know?  (Plus the bj jokes in front of my dad when I was 13 were much more awkward)

And I'll revise my above comment and say that "easy" is a relative term.  I think I'm as easy to please as a lot of guys.  Actually, when back in high school my friends said it took "no time" to get a guy off, my question was "how long?" and they came back with "no time" and then I was like "really, how long?" and finally they conceded 10 minutes.  Well, that's not my idea of no time -I'd been thinking they meant like 30 seconds or something when they'd said that.  I have a short attention span.

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